Makalakala (ax) vs Enigma (al) OOB 16+


  • TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 2

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Politics - Americans
            Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Americans To War With Germans
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in 43 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 43 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking 43 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil
                  Americans take Brazil from Neutral_Allies
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 101 Sea Zone to 103 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            3 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 bomber moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 destroyers and 3 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 54 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            7 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Shensi to Yunnan
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 7 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 7 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/6 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 0/5 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 5 : 2/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 5 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 6 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 7 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 7 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -5
                Casualties for Chinese: 7 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 4 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Sikang
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Shensi: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Szechwan: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 infantry placed in Sikang
            3 infantry placed in Szechwan
            Chinese undo move 2.
            Chinese undo move 1.
            5 infantry placed in Sikang
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 artilleries, 1 destroyer and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 96 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Malta to 93 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 92 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
            1 armour moved from Ethiopia to Italian Somaliland
                  British take Italian Somaliland from Italians
            1 armour moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
            1 mech_infantry moved from Ethiopia to 76 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 76 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from 72 Sea Zone to Kenya
            1 cruiser moved from 76 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
                  Chinese take Yunnan from Japanese
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 fighter
                Italians defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 92 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 transport
            Battle in Kenya
                British attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Kenya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kenya
                British win, taking Kenya from Italians with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 93 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Italians defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 93 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 93 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 93 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 cruiser owned by the Italians lost in 93 Sea Zone
                British win, taking 93 Sea Zone from Italians with 1 bomber and 1 cruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Italians: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 cruiser moved from 107 Sea Zone to 103 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 107 Sea Zone to 103 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 107 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Eastern United States
            1 armour moved from 101 Sea Zone to Eastern United States
            2 fighters moved from Morocco to United Kingdom
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malta to Morocco
            1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to Morocco
            2 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria
            2 artilleries moved from Egypt to Alexandria
            1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
                  British take Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 mech_infantry moved from India to Shan State
            1 armour moved from India to Burma
            1 armour moved from Burma to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
            1 artillery moved from India to Burma
            1 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
            1 aaGun moved from Burma to Shan State
            2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory
            1 transport moved from 76 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - British
            1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,6,6,4
            UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 7 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : -0,50
    Italians regular : 0,33
    Japanese regular : 1,67
    British regular : 0,17
    

    Savegame


  • @enigma Det er klart Rusland kan blive stærke når du går efter Sealion. Og man skal selvfølgelig nok passe lidt på USA, når Japan laver J2. I øvrigt mener jeg det er en dum idé med J2 når Tyskland har købt ind til Sealion. Jeg lavede Sealion på brættet i lørdags fordi min modstander købte ind til Afrika med UK i runde 1 og jeg var ved at tabe på det, fordi jeg mistede alt for meget i London. Og Japan måtte bare vente og vente for ikke at trække USA ind i krigen.


  • @enigma den er jo tabt. Jeg kan jo heller intet med Italien. Men nu må vi se efter Tysklands tur. Tænker det bliver et kort spil som sædvanligt.


  • @enigma ok opdagede lige den destroyer du har købt med england. Lamt. Så er den helt tabt, nu ka jeg jo ik engang ta London.


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 2

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy nothing; Remaining resources: 7 PUs; 
    
        Politics - Italians
            Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
            Trigger Russians Allied Americans 3: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
                  Italians take Algeria from French
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • @enigma vil du scramble ved England? 2 Italienske fly mod din enlige engelske destroyer, der omgivet af 200 tyske krigsskibe, på magisk vis kan blokere for mine transports nord fra…


  • @makalakalane Jep, jeg scrambler. Sådan er spillets mekanisme jo - det er også en charme at man skal tænke det ind. Og det koster mig måske fightere og de tre landenheder jeg kunne have købt. Destroyeren er sidste tab.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 2

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy nothing; Remaining resources: 7 PUs; 
    
        Politics - Italians
            Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
            Trigger Russians Allied Americans 3: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
                  Italians take Algeria from French
    
        Combat - Italians
            British scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans loiter and taunt; Italians attack with 1 bomber and 1 fighter
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 3 fighters
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    1 bomber owned by the Italians, 1 fighter owned by the Italians and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                Casualties for Italians: 1 bomber and 1 fighter
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter
            Moving scrambled unit from 110 Sea Zone back to originating territory: United Kingdom
            Moving scrambled unit from 110 Sea Zone back to originating territory: United Kingdom
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary
            1 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            1 armour moved from Western Germany to Slovakia Hungary
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 11 PUs; end with 18 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : -0,17
    British regular : -0,33
    

    Savegame


  • @enigma jeg fik 1 hit, så deeeeeet. Ka du spille nu her? Tænker Tysklands tur bkan gå hen og blive afgørende for spillet.


  • @makalakalane Der går lidt tid - skal til at lave mad.


  • @enigma bare glem det - jeg har lige kigget igen. Jeg har 28% chance for at tage london. Det er slut. Tak for spillet. 2 runder… Måske jeg bare skal vente med at spille mod dig til jeg bliver bedre, hvis det nogensinde sker.


  • @makalakalane OK. Jeg synes måske generelt du giver lidt for hurtigt op ;-). Der er altid steder på brættet, hvor det ser godt ud og steder, der er værre. Det handler om at sætte ind der, hvor man har styrkerne og begrænse “skaderne” der hvor det ser sværest ud. Og så handler det meget om at tænke flere ture frem.
    Mine tanker om Sealion: Jeg mener virkelig det er en svær øvelse og altid et sats - går det galt er det oftest game over. Jeg gør det ikke selv, hvis UK køber ind til London med alle sine IPC’er i første runde.
    Beslutningen tages ved Tysklands indkøb i runde to. Er sz. 106 gået godt og man som du har købt en carrier er det en mulighed, hvis UK bliver eventyrlystne i Afrika og forsømmer London - ellers ikke (min holdning). Det er altafgørende, at UK ikke, som i vores spil, kan sætte en kæp i hjulet med en destroyer. Derfor må dine landgangsenheder ikke blive fanget i Normandiet eller Holland. Jeg gjorde følgende sidste gang (selvom jeg tabte i sz 106 med to ubåde - ramte ikke engang destroyeren):
    Første runde: købte carrier, sub og destroyer (så kunne jeg forfølge slagskibet fra 111, hvis jeg fik muligheden for at trække Bismarck tilbage). Tog både sz 110 og 111 ud, så UK ikke kunne angribe min flåde i 112.
    Anden runde: Købte 7 transportere, Strategisk bombning af London med jagereskorte, angreb på UK’s skib(e) i Middelhavet. Gik i Skotland med to enheder fra sz 109 og beskyttede transporteren med hele flåden (konvojede UK for 8 IPC). Indsatte de nye transportere i Østersøen, Rusland må jo ikke angribe, og sørgede for at have 8 inf. og 8 tanks klar i Tyskland/Vesttyskland.
    Tredje runde: angribe Skotland (eller forstærke hvis UK ikke har angrebet - det gjorde min modstander ikke). Jeg kunne samle op fra Normandiet i non combat med min enlige transporter fra 109. Sørge for ved turens slutning at have yderligere 16 enheder klar i Vesttyskland, så UK ikke kan ødelægge det hele med en destroyer.
    Fjerde runde (betyder at UK sandsynligvis kan nå at flyve flere fly hjem (Italien missede forsøget på at tage flyene ud på Gibraltar): Købe tonsvis af inf. til at forsvare Berlin mod Rusland. Sealion; Kombination af landgang og angreb fra Skotland - 38 landenheder. Odds over 90%. Hvis USA er stærke nok til at angribe flåden må en airbase i Normandiet eller Holland overvejes. Flåden og transporterne må for alt i verden ikke gå tabt.
    Jeg tog London med 4 tanks og mine fly (mistede vist et til AAA) hvilket var en skidt Sealion. Jeg var nødt til at trække nogle tropper fra østfronten tilbage til at fylde transporterne 2. gang - Rusland blev stærke og det kostede nær sejren.
    Og: Japan må for alt i verden ikke trække USA ind i krigen før tur 4 når London er faldet!! Dette gør pengeøerne sværere at tage og modstanden større i Asien.
    Alt i alt: Sealion kræver en god første runde af Tyskland og at UK dummer sig . min mening :-).


  • @enigma ja, jeg gir nok for hurtigt op. Men generelt er jeg bare ikke god nok til at spille med folk, der kan tænke så langt frem, så let som du kan. Hvis jeg sku gøre det samme, sku jeg bruge enormt meget mere tid og energi på det, kun for højest ssndsynligt at tabe i sidste ende alligevel.
    Vi må vente med at spille til jeg føler jeg har bedre overblik mere end 1 tur frem.

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