@simon33 Sorry. Travelling. Will continue on Sunday or Monday.
Re Nornandy. Yes, sorry, I wanted to write a note (that you edit it) with a savegame but forgot.
L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V
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@artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:
Scramble 3 fighters and 2 tacs, correct?
Yes, full scramble. Just didn’t look at the battle odds, because you said you assumed. :)
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Subs got 1 hit. Tip BB or take hit elsewhere?
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@artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:
Subs got 1 hit. Tip BB or take hit elsewhere?
Certainly.
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3 more hits.
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@artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:
3 more hits.
Please post the map.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 8
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 4 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Greece 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone Americans take 95 Sea Zone from Italians 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 99 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 27 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands Combat - Americans Germans scrambles 3 units out of Yugoslavia to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone Germans scrambles 2 units out of Southern Italy to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone Battle in Greece Battle in Marshall Islands Battle in 99 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 2 submarines Germans defend with 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 transport Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 3 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3.17 expected hitsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Or I’m looking at it.
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Actually, it’s better if I can look at the present state.
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@artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 8
Battle in 99 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 2 submarines Germans defend with 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 transport Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 3 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3.17 expected hitsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.17Thanks!
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@artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:
3 more hits.
The fleet looks toast anyway during UK, so dmg 3 ac allowing the air to escape to land.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 8
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 8 Combat Move - British 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone 5 submarines moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 83 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Malta to 99 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Ukraine to 99 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Egypt to 99 Sea Zone Combat - BritishCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Pardon the delay; I had to completely rethink the UK turn.
Just to be sure: Scramble to defend fleet in SZ 99?
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@artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:
Pardon the delay; I had to completely rethink the UK turn.
Just to be sure: Scramble to defend fleet in SZ 99?
No problem. No scramble.
Also, would’ve like to land more air in Yugo. More central space.
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But it’s no problem. The air is ok in Rome as well, so no need to change.
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The scrambled planes had to return to their bases. For all other planes AA required the same landing zone. I chose S. Italy, but you are welcome to put them elsewhere.
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Yes, the client wrongly requires a single space for retreat.
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 8
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 4 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Greece 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone Americans take 95 Sea Zone from Italians 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 99 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 27 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands Combat - Americans Germans scrambles 3 units out of Yugoslavia to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone Germans scrambles 2 units out of Southern Italy to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone Battle in Greece Battle in Marshall Islands Battle in 99 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 2 submarines Germans defend with 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 transport Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 3 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3.17 expected hits Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Germans and 1 carrier owned by the Italians Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Americans Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 destroyers, 7 fighters, 4 tactical_bombers and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 7/18 hits, 8.83 expected hits 2 submarines owned by the Americans, 2 destroyers owned by the Americans, 1 carrier owned by the Americans and 2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter owned by the Americans and 1 bomber owned by the Americans retreated 1 cruiser owned by the Americans retreated to 97 Sea Zone Germans win, taking Greece from Italians, taking Marshall Islands from Japanese with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 destroyers, 7 fighters, 1 submarine, 4 tactical_bombers and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -64 Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 submarines Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Yugoslavia Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Yugoslavia Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Yugoslavia Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Southern Italy Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Southern Italy 2 fighters owned by the Germans, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans and 2 fighters owned by the Italians forced to land in Southern Italy Non Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter could not land in 99 Sea Zone and was removed 2 carriers, 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar 1 carrier and 2 destroyers moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Western United States to 27 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 marine moved from South Australia to New South Wales 1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta Place Units - Americans 2 fighters placed in Eastern United States 2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in Western United States 1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1,1,6,3,1 Americans collect 54 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 69 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 97 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 98 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Malta: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Combat - Chinese Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 8 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Libya from Italians to Americans EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Libya: 1 armour and 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 98 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Greece: 1 armour and 1 infantry EDIT: Changing ownership of Greece from Americans to Italians EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 79 to 80 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Purchase Units - British British buy 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone 5 submarines moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 83 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Malta to 99 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Ukraine to 99 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Egypt to 99 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in 99 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 9 fighters, 7 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 1 transport British roll dice for 7 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/12 hits, 6.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 destroyers and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits 2 destroyers owned by the Italians, 1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 submarine owned by the Germans, 2 carriers owned by the Germans, 2 submarines owned by the British and 1 carrier owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone British roll dice for 5 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 bomber, 9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 5/11 hits, 5.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Germans, 1 transport owned by the Italians, 1 battleship owned by the Italians and 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone British win, taking 99 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 9 fighters, 4 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 76 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 3 submarines Casualties for Germans: 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 1 transport Non Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 101 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Changing ownership of Tobruk from Italians to British EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Tobruk: 2 armour EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 infantry and 3 transports moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Malta 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Southern Caucasus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq 1 submarine moved from 73 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 83 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta 4 fighters moved from 99 Sea Zone to Ukraine 1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta 1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta 4 fighters moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone Place Units - British 1 factory_minor placed in Southern Persia 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Egypt 1 bomber placed in United Kingdom Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 93 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 109 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - British British collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 40 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,2 UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 5 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 8 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Tunisia: 2 armour EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.17 Italians regular : 0.67 Germans regular : -1.00 British regular : -3.67 -
TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 8
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy nothing; Remaining resources: 12 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine Italians take Western Ukraine from Russians 1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia Combat - Italians Non Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Albania 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,2,5,6,1,2,1,5 Italians collect 4 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 16 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 8
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 1 infantry moved from South Australia to New South Wales 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq Place Units - ANZAC 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 55 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3,2,4,6,3,4,6,5,2,4,1,4,2,2,2,6,5,4,1,2,6,3,3,3,3,2,2,1 ANZAC collect 9 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 9 PUs Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 9
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 9 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 12 artilleries and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Vologda to Yaroslavl Germans take Yaroslavl from Russians 1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Kirov Germans take Kirov from Russians Combat - Germans Non Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Kirov from Germans to Russians EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Vologda 2 artilleries moved from Nenetsia to Archangel 1 aaGun, 4 artilleries and 15 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 2 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Eastern Poland 1 artillery and 10 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia 10 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria 1 fighter moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad 6 infantry moved from Archangel to Leningrad 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Northern Belarus 4 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus 1 tactical_bomber moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Northern Belarus 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Yugoslavia 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Kirov to Archangel 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Yugoslavia Place Units - Germans 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Yugoslavia 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Leningrad 10 artilleries placed in Germany 2 infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,6,1,3,4,2,1,3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 95 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3 Germans collect 50 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 50 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 53 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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