FMERommel (CP) vs Dawgoneit NML 1914

I can’t begrudge USA getting a tech with 1 die, since Comm got the tech it wanted with 2 dice. Late fighter will be very useful to you against Mex. And US has the cash. Mex is good investment for Ger, as USA is spending so much to conquer it. Comm are steadily but painfully slowly eating into Russia. Nice move building 2 fighters in Omsk, altho costly. And reducing Cauc garrison to defend the East. Turk has to decide whether to force its way into Black Sea and weaken its Aegean fleet. Got some things to do outside and Germ turn always takes longer.

TripleA Turn Summary: Germany round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4.1

Game History

Round: 6

    Research Technology - Germany
        Germany spend 5 on tech rolls
            Germany rolls : 1/1 hits, 0.00 expected hits
        Germany removing all Technology Tokens after successful research.
        Germany discover railwayGuns

    Combat Move - Germany
        1 stormtruppen moved from East Prussia to Lithuania
        1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Lithuania
        2 cavalrys, 11 field_guns, 2 fighters, 6 heavy_guns, 32 infantry and 13 stormtruppens moved from Champagne to Burgundy
        1 field_gun and 1 stormtruppen moved from Sweden to Norway
        1 submarine moved from Sea Zone 137 Yellow Sea to Sea Zone 141 Pacific Ocean

    Purchase Units - Germany
        Germany buy 1 destroyer, 6 field_guns, 8 infantry, 10 submarines and 3 trenchs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Combat - Germany
        Battle in Norway
            Germany attack with 1 field_gun and 1 stormtruppen
            France defend with 1 infantry
                Germany roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 stormtruppen in Norway, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                France roll dice for 1 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 stormtruppen owned by the Germany lost in Norway
                Germany roll dice for 1 field_gun in Norway, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                France roll dice for 1 infantry in Norway, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 field_gun owned by the Germany and 1 infantry owned by the France lost in Norway
            France win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
            Casualties for Germany: 1 field_gun and 1 stormtruppen
            Casualties for France: 1 infantry
        Battle in Lithuania
            Germany attack with 1 fighter and 1 stormtruppen
            Russia defend with 1 conscript
                Germany roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 stormtruppen in Lithuania, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russia roll dice for 1 conscript in Lithuania, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 conscript owned by the Russia lost in Lithuania
            Germany win, taking Lithuania from Russia with 1 fighter and 1 stormtruppen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Russia: 1 conscript
        Battle in Sea Zone 141 Pacific Ocean
            Germany attack with 1 submarine
            France defend with 1 cruiser and 2 transports
                Germany roll dice for 1 submarine in Sea Zone 141 Pacific Ocean, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                France roll dice for 1 cruiser and 2 transports in Sea Zone 141 Pacific Ocean, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Germany roll dice for 1 submarine in Sea Zone 141 Pacific Ocean, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                France roll dice for 1 cruiser and 2 transports in Sea Zone 141 Pacific Ocean, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Germany roll dice for 1 submarine in Sea Zone 141 Pacific Ocean, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                France roll dice for 1 cruiser and 2 transports in Sea Zone 141 Pacific Ocean, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Germany roll dice for 1 submarine in Sea Zone 141 Pacific Ocean, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the France lost in Sea Zone 141 Pacific Ocean
                2 transports owned by the France lost in Sea Zone 141 Pacific Ocean
            Germany win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 24
            Casualties for France: 1 cruiser and 2 transports
        Battle in Burgundy
            Germany attack with 2 cavalrys, 11 field_guns, 2 fighters, 6 heavy_guns, 32 infantry and 13 stormtruppens
            France defend with 3 heavy_guns, 13 infantry and 6 trenchs
                Germany roll dice for 2 cavalrys, 11 field_guns, 2 fighters, 6 heavy_guns, 32 infantry and 13 stormtruppens in Burgundy, round 2 : 17/66 hits, 21.33 expected hits
                France roll dice for 3 heavy_guns, 13 infantry and 6 trenchs in Burgundy, round 2 : 7/22 hits, 7.83 expected hits
                7 infantry owned by the Germany, 6 trenchs owned by the France and 5 infantry owned by the France lost in Burgundy
            2 fighters owned by the Germany retreated
            11 field_guns owned by the Germany, 13 stormtruppens owned by the Germany, 25 infantry owned by the Germany, 6 heavy_guns owned by the Germany and 2 cavalrys owned by the Germany retreated to Champagne
            France win with 3 heavy_guns and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Germany: 7 infantry
            Casualties for France: 5 infantry and 6 trenchs

    Non Combat Move - Germany
        2 fighters moved from Burgundy to Champagne
        2 infantry moved from Belgium to Champagne
        5 field_guns moved from Alsace to Champagne
        4 field_guns moved from Bavaria to Wurttemburg
        4 field_guns moved from Eastern Poland to East Prussia
        2 field_guns moved from Warsaw to Eastern Poland
        1 fighter moved from Lithuania to Pomerania
        1 transport moved from Sea Zone 10 Baltic Sea to Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea
        1 field_gun moved from Mecklenburg to Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea
        3 transports moved from Sea Zone 10 Baltic Sea to Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea
        2 field_guns moved from Mecklenburg to Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea
        5 stormtruppens moved from Pomerania to Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea
        3 field_guns and 5 stormtruppens moved from Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea to Sweden
        1 stormtruppen moved from Saxony to Mecklenburg
        2 stormtruppens moved from Saxony to Mecklenburg
        4 stormtruppens moved from East Prussia to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from East Prussia to Eastern Poland
        2 stormtruppens moved from Saxony to Mecklenburg
        1 stormtruppen moved from Saxony to Westphalia
        1 stormtruppen moved from Westphalia to Rhine
        2 battlecruisers, 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 147 Gulf of California to Sea Zone 146 Pacific Ocean
        1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Mexico City to Guadalahara
        2 field_guns and 2 infantry moved from Dar es Salaam to German East Africa
        2 submarines moved from Sea Zone 98 South Atlantic to Sea Zone 93 Indian Ocean

    Place Units - Germany
        3 trenchs placed in Eastern Poland
        2 field_guns placed in Warsaw
        3 infantry placed in Dar es Salaam
        4 infantry placed in Mexico City
        1 destroyer and 5 submarines placed in Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea
        5 submarines placed in Sea Zone 10 Baltic Sea
        1 infantry placed in Belgium
        4 field_guns placed in Berlin

    Activate Technology - Germany
        Germany activating railwayGuns

    Turn Complete - Germany
        Germany collect 136 PUs; end with 136 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germany regular : -4.67
France regular : -1.00
Germany rolls : 1.00
Russia regular : -0.17

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Austria round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4.1

Game History

Round: 6

    Research Technology - Austria
        Austria spend 5 on tech rolls
            Austria rolls : 0/1 hits, 0.00 expected hits

    Combat Move - Austria
        13 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 2 infantry moved from Serbia to Macedonia
        1 infantry moved from Montenegro to Albania
              Austria take Albania from Serbia

    Purchase Units - Austria
        Austria buy 3 field_guns, 1 heavy_gun, 11 infantry, 1 submarine, 2 tanks and 3 trenchs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 1 techTokens; 

    Combat - Austria
        Battle in Macedonia
            Austria attack with 13 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 2 infantry
            Serbia defend with 1 infantry
                Austria roll dice for 13 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 2 infantry in Macedonia, round 2 : 5/17 hits, 7.83 expected hits
                Serbia roll dice for 1 infantry in Macedonia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Serbia lost in Macedonia
            Austria win, taking Macedonia from Serbia with 13 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Serbia: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Austria
        4 infantry moved from Belgrade to Serbia
        2 infantry moved from Transylvania to Galicia
        1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Hungary to Transylvania
        4 infantry moved from Trieste to Venice
        1 field_gun, 2 heavy_guns and 4 infantry moved from Venice to Tyrol
        3 infantry moved from Venice to Tyrol
        1 fighter moved from Bosnia to Serbia

    Place Units - Austria
        3 trenchs placed in Galicia
        3 infantry and 1 tank placed in Belgrade
        3 field_guns, 1 heavy_gun and 2 infantry placed in Tyrol
        3 infantry and 1 tank placed in Venice
        1 submarine placed in Sea Zone 62 Adriatic Sea
        3 infantry placed in Hungary

    Turn Complete - Austria
        Austria collect 87 PUs; end with 87 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Serbia regular : -0.33
Austria rolls : 0.00
Austria regular : -2.83

Savegame

TripleA Move Summary: Turkey round 6

TripleA Move Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4.1

Game History

Round: 6

    Research Technology - Turkey
        Turkey spend 15 on tech rolls

    Combat Move - Turkey
        3 cavalrys, 2 field_guns and 4 infantry moved from Arabia to Mecca
        1 cavalry, 2 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 13 infantry moved from Hejaz to Mecca
        3 gass moved from Baghdad to Mecca
        1 gas moved from Kurdistan to Mecca
        2 fighters moved from Mesopotamia to Mecca
        1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Sea Zone 68 Aegean Sea
        1 field_gun moved from Bulgaria to Sea Zone 68 Aegean Sea
        1 battlecruiser, 1 battleship, 3 cruisers, 1 field_gun, 1 infantry, 3 submarines and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 68 Aegean Sea to Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete
        1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete to Crete

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Turkey round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4.1

Game History

Round: 6

    Research Technology - Turkey
        Turkey spend 15 on tech rolls
            Turkey roll 1,1,5 and gets 0 hits

    Combat Move - Turkey
        3 cavalrys, 2 field_guns and 4 infantry moved from Arabia to Mecca
        1 cavalry, 2 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 13 infantry moved from Hejaz to Mecca
        3 gass moved from Baghdad to Mecca
        1 gas moved from Kurdistan to Mecca
        2 fighters moved from Mesopotamia to Mecca
        1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Sea Zone 68 Aegean Sea
        1 field_gun moved from Bulgaria to Sea Zone 68 Aegean Sea
        1 battlecruiser, 1 battleship, 3 cruisers, 1 field_gun, 1 infantry, 3 submarines and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 68 Aegean Sea to Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete
        1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete to Crete

    Purchase Units - Turkey
        Turkey buy 1 destroyer, 3 field_guns, 7 infantry and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 13 PUs; 3 techTokens; 

    Combat - Turkey
        Battle in Mecca
            Turkey attack with 4 cavalrys, 4 field_guns, 2 fighters, 4 gass, 2 heavy_guns and 17 infantry
            Arabia defend with 11 Bedouins, 1 Factory and 8 trenchs
                Turkey roll dice for 4 gass in Mecca, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                4 Bedouins owned by the Arabia lost in Mecca
                4 gass owned by the Turkey lost in Mecca
                Turkey roll dice for 4 cavalrys, 4 field_guns, 2 fighters, 2 heavy_guns and 17 infantry in Mecca, round 2 : 8/29 hits, 7.50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 8 trenchs owned by the Arabia
                Arabia roll dice for 7 Bedouins and 8 trenchs in Mecca, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Turkey lost in Mecca
                Turkey roll dice for 4 cavalrys, 4 field_guns, 2 fighters, 2 heavy_guns and 14 infantry in Mecca, round 3 : 6/26 hits, 7.00 expected hits
                Arabia roll dice for 7 Bedouins and 8 trenchs in Mecca, round 3 : 4/7 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                6 trenchs owned by the Arabia and 4 infantry owned by the Turkey lost in Mecca
                Turkey roll dice for 4 cavalrys, 4 field_guns, 2 fighters, 2 heavy_guns and 10 infantry in Mecca, round 4 : 5/22 hits, 6.33 expected hits
                Arabia roll dice for 7 Bedouins and 2 trenchs in Mecca, round 4 : 3/7 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                2 trenchs owned by the Arabia, 3 infantry owned by the Turkey and 3 Bedouins owned by the Arabia lost in Mecca
                Turkey roll dice for 4 cavalrys, 4 field_guns, 2 fighters, 2 heavy_guns and 7 infantry in Mecca, round 5 : 9/19 hits, 5.83 expected hits
                Arabia roll dice for 4 Bedouins in Mecca, round 5 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                4 Bedouins owned by the Arabia lost in Mecca
            Turkey captures 5PUs while taking Arabia capital
            Turkey win, taking Mecca from Arabia with 4 cavalrys, 4 field_guns, 2 fighters, 2 heavy_guns and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Arabia: 11 Bedouins and 8 trenchs
            Casualties for Turkey: 4 gass and 10 infantry
        Battle in Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete
            Turkey attack with 1 battlecruiser, 1 battleship, 3 cruisers, 3 submarines and 1 transport
            Italy defend with 1 battlecruiser and 1 cruiser; France defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Serbia defend with 1 cruiser
                France roll dice for 1 submarine in Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Turkey roll dice for 3 submarines in Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Turkey roll dice for 1 battlecruiser, 1 battleship, 3 cruisers and 1 transport in Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                France roll dice for 1 battlecruiser, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer in Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Serbia, 1 destroyer owned by the France, 1 cruiser owned by the Italy and 1 submarine owned by the France lost in Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete
                Turkey roll dice for 3 submarines in Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 battlecruiser owned by the Italy lost in Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete
            Turkey win with 1 battlecruiser, 1 battleship, 3 cruisers, 3 submarines and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 52
            Casualties for France: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            Casualties for Italy: 1 battlecruiser and 1 cruiser
            Casualties for Serbia: 1 cruiser
        Battle in Crete

    Non Combat Move - Turkey
        1 infantry moved from Palestine to Hejaz
        3 field_guns moved from Damascus to Palestine
        3 infantry moved from Lebanon to Palestine
        2 cavalrys moved from Khurasan to Lurs
        1 field_gun moved from Armenia to Georgia
        1 field_gun moved from Syria to Mesopotamia
        2 fighters moved from Mecca to Arabia
        2 field_guns and 4 infantry moved from Smyrna to Armenia
        1 field_gun and 3 infantry moved from Smyrna to Syria
        1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Dardanelles
        3 field_guns and 3 infantry moved from Constantinople to Smyrna
        3 infantry moved from Syria to Lebanon

    Place Units - Turkey
        1 destroyer and 3 submarines placed in Sea Zone 68 Aegean Sea
        4 infantry placed in Constantinople
        3 field_guns placed in Damascus
        3 infantry placed in Baghdad

    Turn Complete - Turkey
        Turkey collect 74 PUs; end with 92 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

France regular : -2.17
Arabia regular : 1.67
Turkey regular : 2.17

Savegame

Good turn for Turkey. Maybe you advanced the Entente fleet to take attention away from Rus fleet, but now Turkey rules the Med, at least for now. Turk subs hit well and Allies that survived first strike, all missed.

Yes, I was lucky. Like to watch flow of game and go thru map history. I retreated Turk cav to Lurs to be more flexible and didn’t think about an amphib attack. Snake eyes dice was lucky. The sea battle below Africa was luck in dice and that I had just gotten sub tech, which increased my defense. Otherwise, my sub would have missed. Battle in Lith: your art support went to the conscript rather than inf. Gave you 3 dice rolls, instead of 2 at “2”. But you rolled a “2” and missed. Lots of trenches in Africa. Three builds per turn in Dar S has given me a decent army. Turks putting pressure on Russia and Sinai/Suez and have excess cash for lots of troop builds plus fleet. That’s partly from tech misses, so didn’t buy new dice every turn. Turks have to guard Persian Gulf, so were glad Indian amphib went to Sinai instead.

TripleA Turn Summary: Communists round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4.1

Game History

Round: 6

    Research Technology - Communists
        Communists spend 5 on tech rolls
            Communists rolls : 0/1 hits, 0.00 expected hits

    Combat Move - Communists
        2 field_guns and 1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Chita
        1 cavalry moved from Aldan to Chita
        4 field_guns, 1 heavy_gun and 4 infantry moved from Bratsk to Novosibirsk
        2 field_guns and 2 infantry moved from Buryatia to Novosibirsk
        1 infantry moved from Yakutsk to Tiksi
        2 field_guns and 1 infantry moved from Yakutsk to Aldan

    Purchase Units - Communists
        Communists buy 9 conscripts and 2 field_guns; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 1 techTokens; 

    Combat - Communists
        Battle in Novosibirsk
            Communists attack with 6 field_guns, 1 heavy_gun and 6 infantry
            Russia defend with 3 cavalrys, 1 conscript and 4 trenchs
                Communists roll dice for 6 field_guns, 1 heavy_gun and 6 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 9/13 hits, 5.33 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 trench owned by the Russia
                Russia roll dice for 3 cavalrys, 1 conscript and 4 trenchs in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                3 trenchs owned by the Russia, 1 conscript owned by the Russia, 1 cavalry owned by the Russia and 2 infantry owned by the Communists lost in Novosibirsk
                Communists roll dice for 6 field_guns, 1 heavy_gun and 4 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 2/11 hits, 4.67 expected hits
                Russia roll dice for 2 cavalrys and 1 trench in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 trench owned by the Russia, 1 cavalry owned by the Russia and 1 infantry owned by the Communists lost in Novosibirsk
                Communists roll dice for 6 field_guns, 1 heavy_gun and 3 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 4 : 4/10 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                Russia roll dice for 1 cavalry in Novosibirsk, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 cavalry owned by the Russia and 1 infantry owned by the Communists lost in Novosibirsk
            Communists win, taking Novosibirsk from Russia with 6 field_guns, 1 heavy_gun and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
            Casualties for Communists: 4 infantry
            Casualties for Russia: 3 cavalrys, 1 conscript and 4 trenchs
        Battle in Chita
            Communists attack with 1 cavalry, 2 field_guns and 1 infantry
            Russia defend with 1 conscript
                Communists roll dice for 1 cavalry, 2 field_guns and 1 infantry in Chita, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Russia roll dice for 1 conscript in Chita, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 conscript owned by the Russia lost in Chita
            Communists win, taking Chita from Russia with 1 cavalry, 2 field_guns and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Russia: 1 conscript

    Non Combat Move - Communists

    Place Units - Communists
        3 conscripts placed in Irkutsk
        6 conscripts and 2 field_guns placed in Yakutsk

    Turn Complete - Communists
        Communists collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Communists rolls : 0.00
Communists regular : 0.00
Russia regular : 1.83

Savegame

TripleA Move Summary: Germany round 7

TripleA Move Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4.1

Game History

Round: 7

    Research Technology - Germany
        Germany spend 5 on tech rolls
        Germany removing all Technology Tokens after successful research.
        Germany discover workingWomen

    Combat Move - Germany
        1 fighter and 1 stormtruppen moved from Champagne to Picardy
        1 fighter and 1 stormtruppen moved from Champagne to Franche-Comte
        8 stormtruppens moved from Mecklenburg to Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea
        3 battlecruisers, 2 battleships, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 8 stormtruppens, 12 submarines and 4 transports moved from Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea to Sea Zone 13 Skagerrak
        1 stormtruppen moved from Sea Zone 13 Skagerrak to Oslo
        1 stormtruppen moved from Sea Zone 13 Skagerrak to Norway
        1 stormtruppen moved from Sea Zone 13 Skagerrak to Oslo
        1 stormtruppen moved from Sea Zone 13 Skagerrak to Norway
        1 stormtruppen moved from Sea Zone 13 Skagerrak to Norway
        1 stormtruppen moved from Sea Zone 13 Skagerrak to Norway
        2 stormtruppens moved from Sea Zone 13 Skagerrak to Oslo
        5 submarines moved from Sea Zone 10 Baltic Sea to Sea Zone 13 Skagerrak
        4 field_guns moved from Sweden to Oslo
        1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Guadalahara to Sea Zone 146 Pacific Ocean
        2 battlecruisers, 1 cruiser, 1 field_gun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 146 Pacific Ocean to Sea Zone 108 Pacific Ocean
        1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Sea Zone 108 Pacific Ocean to Panama
        3 field_guns and 8 stormtruppens moved from Sweden to Norway

Savegame

Need OOL: sea battle in sz13: 7 hits by Germ subs. 3 hits on BB’s and 4 subs? Germ surface ships haven’t fired yet. Germ has 27 ships attack of 84. UK has 20 ships and Fra 4 with defense of 67.