Combining AAE and AAP

This Idea came up through talking to people here about avoiding infantry blobs. Spamming infantry is often the best way to play, but that can be boring. So to encourage more diversity in strategy, we came up with the following:

When taking Casualties, if you select the same unit type as a casualty 3 times in a row, you must take an extra casualty. So if you were defending with ONLY infantry and took 3 casualties, you must remove 4 infantry instead. [you may apply the same rule to all units or just infantry]

Players can adjust this to their liking. Every 4th unit must be different or even every 2nd unit must be different. I would love to play test this more online but not sure how to do that unless people use tabletop simulator.

You can definitely merge the units together either way by buying both games… as previously mentioned, 1942SE has more unit types than 1941 (specifically Artillery, AAA and Cruisers), but for the most part, everything is self-complimentary in boosting the overall pool of available units.

Also, the 1941 and 1942 versions have different sculpts for each unit (aside from the infantry which is identical).  The 1941 version has a different tank, fighter, bomber, destroyer, carrier and battleship sculpt/model (1-each) for the Axis and Allies respectively (things such as a Tiger Tank, He-111 bomber, FW-190 fighter, Hood BB, JS-2 tank, Russian carrier, etc, etc).  This is a plus, not a minus, and a nice way of adding cool new looks to both 1941 and 1942 (since the 1942 sculpts are different than the 1941 sculpts and vice-versa).

I got back into A&A by purchasing 1941, quickly followed by a purchase of 1942, then pooling all the units together in common bins for use in either game.  I also boosted that further by purchasing more units from HBG to make it possible for me to play a “chitless” game if I so choose in either version (assisted by printing larger maps to give more room, but that’s another subject).  For example, all five of my powers have over 60 infantry and 24 tanks in their bins for each nation.  I highly recommend doing what you asked… just buy 1942 and merge them… if you want more than that, go on HBG and order additional units.

Enjoy the game, its a lot of fun.

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Is there a link to boardgamegeek where these files are now located?!?!
Thanks!

I made an important revision in red which affect the first two posts.

If playing 1942.2 without Airbase but with Tactical Bombers,
here is the condition to get escorted Strategical bombers:

_When StBs attack fighters on SBR air combat, **each get 1 A@1 if there is a Fg unit escorting.

The fighter unit have to be part of the SBR to give the bonus to all StBs attacking the IC.
This single fighter unit get 1A@1 preemptive strike.
The Fg unit can land anywhere else at the end of the turn. No need to return in the same territory.

**Non-escorted StBs group roll: 1A@1 for each StB or interceptor, whichever is less.

The @1 for escorted StB is like the actual OOB.
As it is for each intercepting Fg getting to fire 1D@1.
Is it enough balance and fair for both sides?****_

All these extra dice just completely change the game. Large battles are gonna mess up the Soviets because they can’t really afford a “combined arms” thing.

The whole benefit should be one of movement: 2 movers paired with 1 movers in NCM at 1:1 basis should all move two.

Combat should be toned down to this: 1 air, 1 armor, 1 Inf/Art/Mech gets one re-roll if missed. Don’t add more dice, just take the dice you got and possible re-roll.

However, the movement won’t change the game too much, like this 3 or less thing.

Besides, that idea was submitted by Larry Harris like 3 years ago and people shot it down then too. He considered it before AAP40 came out.

OH MY GOD! It’s a whole family of GIANTS! RUN everybody, RUN!

I remember right after AAR came out, almost five years ago, playing a game of AAE with tanks that defend on 3. It was horrible, horrible idea. Germany just got too much out of that one. But reduced prices on fighters and carriers didn’t seem to break the game as much. Germany builds lots of fighters, but so do the UK and US. Nobody builds carriers in AAE unless something unusual has happened anyway.

At any rate for both AAE and AAP besides the reduced price on fighters and carriers to match AAR (and 24 VPs for AAP) my group plays with the rules as is. Transports are any land or one tank, tanks defend on 2, etc.
But now with AA50 there’s a lot of change. The problem with wholesale just changing the unit stats is that setups were designed for the original stats.

So I have a few questions:
Do you think fighters that cost 10 and carriers at 16 ruins or damages gameplay in either AAE or AAP? Especially considering escorts for SBRs it might be a concern.

Any consider going through and tweaking the setups for E and P to make them fair for the new unit stats? It might do good to freshen them up a bit. I think if well done it could further enhance the Pacfic especially. Convoy values, of course, are a concern.

What about tweaking setups to Europe to add Italy? Without Sub-Saharan Africa this might be pointless, but maybe the oil money alone would be enough.

:lol: Those one, two attakes must have sucked for you!  :lol: