Proposed Naval Unit Color Scheme for GW 36 v3

The rules (3.3) say that you lose VPs per land zone in home territory that has a point value.

KMT/CCPs home territory consists of KMT, CCP, Warlords, Manchuria, Hong Kong, and Formosa.

So basically the Japanese really have to screw the pooch for KMT/CCP to get all their VPs.

Unless I’m missing something?

@hbg-gw-enthusiast We limit total tech to 4. One can research 2 free at a time. Can pay 3 IPCs per roll to research other 2 faster or simultaneously.

@Arsilon said in Surrounded Cities and What's up with Naval base?:

I think this confusion stems from confusing Blockaded and Surrounded. One could interpret surrounded as a single ship blocking a naval facility. However blockades are something specific to having 3 or more surface ships in that facility’s sea zone.

While I see no confusion with “A blockaded Naval Facility is considered surrounded,” a more exhaustive sentence could be “A blockaded Naval Facility does not prevent a city not counting as surrounded.”

Hey all!

So, this might be a question for those who have played some games with the V3 rules a few times, and/or those who helped play test or help refine (like GHG).

I’m just wondering what changes between the two versions of the game people are bummed about that were taken out of V2, or just altered a lot. I don’t have any experience with V3 yet, other than reading the beta rules on their website once or twice. Would love to get others’ takes on what they might miss or not agree with. Just thinking ahead to the potential of house ruling a bit to revert to V2 if anyone wanted.

A couple potential talking points (and sorry, it’s been a minute since I read through the V3 beta rules, so I might be misremembering):

Variations in unit costs by nation? I think I read that all units of the same type will now cost the same for every nation, right? Does everyone like this rule? My gut reaction is I kind of liked having a little variable there, as it gave different nations different advantages. But on the flip side, I understand from a level playing field perspective how making all the same makes sense. Not to mention it probably simplifies the rules a bit. Any opinions?

Special units. I might be misremembering here, but I thought there were no longer special units, like Volkstrum, Black Shirts, etc. for some nations. How do people feel about that? Do they miss that variation a bit, or is it pointless?

Naval options. I’ve mentioned this before, and have heard how others feel. But again, just curious on thoughts. Do people like all the different naval base and naval unit options now in V3? Or has anyone found it might bog the game down a bit at times? Just curious.

Any missed opportunities for improvement that you think would have been beneficial?

Thanks!

Chris

@GeneralHandGrenade The end of your “Misunderstood Rules” video reminded me of this discussion.

Upon reflection, I think what I was really getting at with the way the beta rules are written is that they never explicitly state that surface warships other than Destroyers cannot attack submarines with the help of an aircraft on MAP. It is only implied that other ships cannot do this.

@GeneralHandGrenade thanks guys I am a big fan ghg love your vids.

Nice work; looks great :-) :-)

@sjelso:

Don’t want to be a broken record but wish HBG would open source the map so others could work on it too.  Lots of good ideas out there and some people with great Photoshop skills (i.e Sireblood/etc.).  HBG could still print them or perhaps offer one-time use licensing if one wants to print elsewhere (hard to get and control a copyright though, I understand).  Allows people to print different sizes too and on different materials.

My 2 cents.

Your 2 cents is VERY valuable.
I’d like a elec copy to print a mini version so we can refer to it when planning, discussing moves with teammates.  It’s so hard to see borders, values etc once the game is underway and there are pieces everywhere.  Maybe a black n white version so we can just get something to refer to……