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What is the Best Toy for Representing Submarines
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Earlier, I started a post about the right term for playing pieces because I had wanted to start this post about submarines and didn’t know exactly what to call them.
I hate the OOB submarines. They are thin, can be hard to pick up, and fall over on their sides. They suck. Does anyone one else have this problem?
I notice the A&A 1914 subs have a slight flare at their base to provide stability and a nice stubby conning tower to pick them up.
You can buy HBG subs for Germany and Japan, but I’d love to see how much interest there is in petitioning HBG to make a standard submarine with a slightly wider base (thicker). Perhaps based on the German Type IX, USS Gato, or IJN I-201? I’m fine with HBG choosing just one and making them in all colors. When you can’t pick up a piece and instead scoot it to the edge of the board to sweep it off, then the fun/toy aspect drops off a bit.
So the two questions are: Are you too annoyed with the OOB submarines? Would you like to see HBG make a “standard” submarine?
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The type VII class for Germany in A&A is probably the most unstable, but I find that HBG has a lot of submarine models already available. It would not be very high on my list of priorities for them to make more.
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Without them making a new one wider and no other Co that makes it best bet for now is painting the classic sub to your countries color
Maybe I will never grow up make some for us in the near future ?
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@gen-manstein I agree that the original was well made!
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@hbg-gw-enthusiast I like using the 1914 submarine piece for WW2 games…reasoning is they look like most toys that were made during the war, and these toys stand up. The worst by far were the Revised Sub Toys ( in every case). HBG does make great subs, They need to make a type XX1, that stands up good, and also the Japanese 1-300/500 types
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@gen-manstein said in What is the Best Toy for Representing Submarines:
Without them making a new one wider and no other Co that makes it best bet for now is painting the classic sub to your countries color
Maybe I will never grow up make some for us in the near future ?
We’ve actually already started producing them. Currently we have the Japanese Type C3 I52, German Type U-41 and the French Surcouf Cruiser Sub. A few more coming in the next week or two;
Italian Foca
German Type IX
French Redoubtable
US Gato
US Balao** Edit: Whether or not any of our models are a solution to the issues above, I can’t say. The only model I’ve ever experienced issue with is the OOB German subs being too thin starting with AA50th.
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@iwillnevergrowup
Well for me I bought the German and Japan subs from HBG and they are to small.
I do like the size of the OOB German ones and rest of them. Be nice to get them wider.
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@iwillnevergrowup This is great news! I’ll check them out!
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Here is another excellent option from EBard:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/2AFS8AXLT/type-viic-u-boat-x10?optionId=42684635
It has a wide base and you can get it in white, black, or translucent. -
@hbg-gw-enthusiast I bought some of these and they don’t represent the Type VII. I recommend XP Forge. I know the owner and he has the best 3D printed ships out there. I have used most of his sculpts to outfit my entire navy of all my nations.
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