bye bye Stalin
PTV OwenToo vs max334 (Axis)
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@max334 I could, but nah, I don’t think I will.
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I think ftrs without a DD are useless against subs. Is that the case in the Iceland sz? 31 Jan 21.tsvg
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@max334 Yup! Submarine by Iceland submerges to fight another day. Ba-Bye TT! You served us well…
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 7 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 6 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 10 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 126 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Scotland to 126 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 115 Sea Zone to 122 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 116 Sea Zone to 122 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Scotland to 126 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Scotland to 122 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Kursk Germans take Kursk from Russians 1 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk Germans take Bryansk from Russians 1 artillery moved from Scotland to Eire Germans take Eire from Neutral_Allies Combat - Germans Battle in 122 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine Americans defend with 1 submarine Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 122 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 122 Sea Zone Germans win, taking 122 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Battle in 126 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport 1 submarine owned by the Germans submerged 1 submarine owned by the Americans submerged 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 126 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Non Combat Move - Germans 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Baltic States to Leningrad 1 fighter moved from 122 Sea Zone to Scotland 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 126 Sea Zone to Scotland 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Scotland 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 116 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad 1 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 artillery moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 marine moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 aaGun and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 mech_infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 aaGun moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland 2 aaGuns, 4 armour, 4 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 4 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 4 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 1 bomber moved from Germany to France 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Leningrad 1 battleship moved from 116 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Archangel to Baltic States 1 armour moved from Archangel to Karelia 1 mech_infantry moved from Archangel to Karelia 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Scotland 1 fighter moved from 116 Sea Zone to Western Germany 4 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine Place Units - Germans 1 submarine placed in 115 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 116 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in France 5 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in Germany 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 6 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2,6,4,4,4,2,3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 128 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 112 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,6 Germans collect 52 PUs (6 lost to blockades); end with 52 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 55 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.67 -
pls let me change my NCM into Lenningrad. I now see its a lost cause. Pls put all units in the Baltic State except for 1 Inf
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Here are the changes if ok jan 31.tsvg
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@max334 I can’t read that file. Just post your new end of turn the regular way.
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@owentoo OK, I can work with this
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@owentoo I dont think I can post it another way
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ok, let me try this
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@max334 That worked
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If Russians attack Jap units in China, do the Mongolians become strict neutral?
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@max334 Yes, I think that is the case
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Leningrad 1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Leningrad 4 artilleries moved from Smolensk to Bryansk 13 infantry moved from Smolensk to Bryansk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Leningrad 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Archangel Russians take Archangel from Germans 1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Leningrad Combat - Russians Russians creates battle in territory 118 Sea Zone Battle in Leningrad Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Leningrad, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad Russians win, taking Leningrad from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in 118 Sea Zone Russians attack with 1 submarine Germans defend with 1 battleship and 2 transports 1 submarine owned by the Russians submerged Battle in Bryansk Russians attack with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 3/19 hits, 5.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk Russians winGermans winGermans win with 1 battleship and 2 transports remaining with 1 battleship and 2 transports remaining, taking Bryansk from Germans with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Vologda to Samara 2 armour, 3 artilleries, 15 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Stalingrad 1 infantry moved from Urals to Timguska 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Samara to Urals 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Stalingrad to Urals 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Vologda to Novgorod 1 tactical_bomber moved from Leningrad to Novgorod 1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Novgorod 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 11 infantry moved from Smolensk to Bryansk 2 fighters moved from Smolensk to Russia 1 aaGun moved from Russia to Samara 3 infantry moved from Russia to Samara 1 infantry moved from Samara to Urals Place Units - Russians 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry placed in Urals 2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Stalingrad 1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in Russia Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Siberia: 3 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Amur: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Sakha: 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 42 PUs Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 44 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 46 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.67 Russians regular : -2.83 -
TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 8 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Japan to 9 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Ceylon to 40 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports moved from 40 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 82 Sea Zone to Southern Persia 1 marine moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 65 Sea Zone to New Zealand 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Western Sinkiang 1 artillery moved from Northern Sinkiang to Western Sinkiang 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Western Sinkiang 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 9 Sea Zone to Aleutian Islands Combat - Japanese Battle in Southern Persia Battle in 9 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 submarine and 1 transport Americans defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport 1 submarine owned by the Americans submerged 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 9 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking Southern Persia from British with 1 bomber, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Battle in Aleutian Islands Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Americans defend with 1 artillery Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Aleutian Islands, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery in Aleutian Islands, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Aleutian Islands, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery in Aleutian Islands, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Aleutian Islands Japanese win, taking Aleutian Islands from Americans with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery Battle in New Zealand Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine ANZAC defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in New Zealand, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine in New Zealand, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in New Zealand, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine in New Zealand, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in New Zealand, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine in New Zealand, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in New Zealand, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in New Zealand Japanese win, taking New Zealand from ANZAC with 1 artillery and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Battle in Western Sinkiang Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Western Sinkiang, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Sinkiang, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Western Sinkiang Japanese win, taking Western Sinkiang from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malaya to 132 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 60 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Inner Mongolia to 7 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 9 Sea Zone to Japan 1 submarine moved from 80 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Jehol to Szechwan 1 armour moved from Kweichow to Yunnan 1 aaGun moved from Kweichow to Yunnan 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kansu to Yunnan 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Sinkiang to Tsinghai 1 mech_infantry moved from Tsinghai to Yunnan 1 artillery moved from Northern Sinkiang to Kansu 2 artilleries moved from Northern Sinkiang to Eastern Sinkiang 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Sinkiang to Tsinghai 1 armour moved from Kansu to Szechwan 1 armour moved from Jehol to Southern Manchuria 1 mech_infantry moved from Shansi to Southern Manchuria 1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Shansi 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hopei 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 bomber moved from Chahar to Yunnan 1 marine moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 18 Sea Zone 3 carriers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 7 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Southern Manchuria 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Japan 3 infantry placed in Kiangsu Japanese undo move 3. 3 infantry placed in Kwangtung 1 artillery and 1 fighter placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 70 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 73 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs Objective Japanese 7 Vital Forward Bases: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 34 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Caroline Islands: 1 artillery and 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 7 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Japan: 1 artillery and 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -0.33 Americans regular : 0.33 Japanese regular : -2.83 ANZAC regular : 0.00 -
@max334 I am going to have think about this one for a bit. Your Japanese play is excellent, and even though the numbers say I have a PU advantage at this stage, it sure doesn’t seem like it
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@owentoo oh yah man, take your time… thoughtful moves make for a better game.
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I looked at the statistics for the game (PU’s, TUV’s and the others) and I don’t think its looking good for the Allies. Yes, they still have a lead, but its been consistently dropping and will most likely continue to drop. Africa, the Middle East and the Americas are all under threat and there is no significant defense. Moscow is probably not going to fall, but Russia cant hold back the tide. How do you see it?
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@max334 Most games, Russia must fall for the Axis to win. In this game, the Japanese could win a Pacific victory. If that happens, it will be because I overdid the SeaLion response. Also, I lost a small force near Australia during J2 that I should have had out of harm’s way. That got me behind, and you have played an excellent Japanese game.
We should know more after a couple more rounds.
A couple of years ago playing BM3, I lost a game to an aggressive Japanese J2 opening, when I had no good response. When playing the Axis, I have usually attacked during G3 and J3 in the past with BM3, but with PTV I think the better opening attacks are with a G2, and J2.
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