Motorized Infantry

Hey guys this is just my idea on elite infantry. Also check out my forum on a simple way to add troop quality to the game here: https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/34219/infantry-idea. Anyways, here’s how I think elite infantry should work:

they are a separate unit they are available to all countries Attack 3, Defend 3, Cost 4 When attacking they get a preemptive and any hit they get defend at one less
What do you think?

I very much like the overall idea. I think you’re doling out too many infantry in too many different places, and the effect will be disruptive to players’ strategies and will require a lot of bookkeeping.

I would cut the bonuses roughly in half, and apply them to only a handful of specific countries that are relatively easier to remember. I would also limit the bonus to territories that start the game in enemy hands, so you don’t get weird see-saw effects as ownership changes hands.

I like the idea of having Paris yield bonus units rather than ‘re-igniting’ the French economy.

JAPAN

India – 5 infantry
French Indo-China – 1 infantry
Western US – 1 infantry

GERMANY

Ukraine – 2 infantry
Baltic States – 1 infantry

ITALY

Egypt – 2 infantry

USSR

Yugoslavia – 2 infantry
Romania – 1 infantry
Manchuria – 1 infantry

UK

Poland – 2 infantry
Norway – 1 infantry
Holland/Belgium – 1 infantry

USA

Paris – 3 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 fighter
Southern Italy – 2 infantry
Okinawa – 1 infantry

France paratrooper can also simulate commandos  along european shore.

Also, you can identify special infantry or Marines with a Control Marker below the sculp.
That way, you can increase their cost without having to buy 1914 or 1941 to get different Infantry sculpt.
I still wonder if a 3 IPCs unit can be a balanced cost for a weaker Marines unit able to move with Cruiser and BB.
As written elsewhere:

Marines as simply Marines and nothing more
Cost 3
Attack 1-2
Defense 1
Move 1

Sea movement bonus:
1 Marines unit can be carried on 1 Battleship or 1 Cruiser.
Transport can load 2 Marines or 1 Marines plus any other 1 ground unit.
Gets +1A on amphibious assault only.

No combined arms with Artillery.
No production limit number.

That way, 2 Marines for 6 IPCs, A4 D2 on amphibious assault will be better cost ratio than regular Infantry paired with Artillery A4 D4 C7.
But, in defense, 2 Marines Defense @2 cannot hold the ground as 2 Infantry Defense @4.

And also 2 Marines being weaker if going inland combat by themselves because of the no pairing bonus with artillery. But they stay on par 1:1 compared to a single Infantry on offense.

Also, in amphibious assault, Marines will be probably taken amongst first casualties compared to regular infantry because it is the same attack factor than Inf with Artillery (but have a lesser defense factor (very low 1), unless you keep them to move on a Cruiser or BB and want to spare TP to turn back home for new supply on next turn. So, such Marines unit will more often die during debarkment and regular Infantry will last longer, in anticipation of next assault going inland.

About Infantry moving NCM only with Cruiser or Battleship, it cannot simulate the initiative and offensive role being taken by Marines such as Guadalcanal.
As far as I understand, Marines were first almost everywhere in PTO while regular army troopers were mopping behind Marines and garrisoning conquered islands. Maybe the exception is Peleliu in Palau islands.

Maybe a NA for Japan could be Entreched defenders on Islands + 1 defence on first salvoe

I am gonna post a new version of mine using KISS. I think it is too complicated.

but i will do that in a new thread :-D

Well the map is not accurate in this respect, but Shanghai would be Japanese original. If it was up to me the VC should be in Manchukuo and that other territory held in Chinese control in 1941. Sometimes you have to just do the best of a bad situation.

remember the 4X rule in these places and also the variations on costs for infantry depending on VC.

1.  Is there a limit as to the number of infantry that can be built at VCs?

yes of course, the 4x rule…

2.  If China is incapable of replacing American aircraft or building armor, why are they given a factory in the game?  In reality, China had only the capability to build infantry - which was poorly trained and equipt.  The presence of a factory in the game allows for China to build any type of unit.

4x rule allows them to only build artillery or infantry ( or mech)

As infantry are built at victory cities, I propose removing the factory from China.

but what about artillery? China had artillery and they are but an army of misfits w/o them

@DasReich:

This game is an alteration of history. Imagine if Germany really conquered egypt on R1… How many people would have decided to join the axis instead of the allies, imagine the ressources involved. More oil, more money, more manpower. This has to be taken into account.

Well for that we play with the Neutrals.
Depending on different situations the Neutrals give income to axis or allies or neither.