L21 #1 WindowWasher (X) vs trulpen (A+24) BM3

nope, here we go

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 12

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 12

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 infantry moved from Spain to Normandy Bordeaux
              Americans take Normandy Bordeaux from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Spain to Southern France
              Americans take Southern France from Italians
        1 carrier and 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 12 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 12 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 55 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 30 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        6 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        8 infantry and 4 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
        8 infantry moved from 65 Sea Zone to Chile

    Combat - Americans
        Americans creates battle in territory 45 Sea Zone
        Battle in 26 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
            Japanese defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 26 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 26 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/6 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 26 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 26 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Americans
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 2 submarines owned by the Americans, 1 carrier owned by the Japanese, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 26 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 26 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in 26 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 26 Sea Zone
            Americans win, taking 26 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 carriers, 4 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
        Battle in Hawaiian Islands
            Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 3 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 3 fighters, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 3 infantry in Hawaiian Islands, round 2 : 0/6 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Hawaiian Islands, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Hawaiian Islands
                Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 bombers in Hawaiian Islands, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Hawaiian Islands, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 bombers owned by the Americans lost in Hawaiian Islands
                Americans roll dice for 1 artillery in Hawaiian Islands, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters in Hawaiian Islands, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Hawaiian Islands
            Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -11
            Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 3 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 fighters and 2 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 1,00
Japanese regular : 0,50

Savegame

I agree that it’s dumb that it was decided that way, but if you had brought the russians, id have bombed the airbase, and they’d have been stuck there not able to return for the german attack on moscow, everyone but the russians could possibly return.

I thought your move was purposeful because it was minimizing the amount of Russian planes getting stuck, simply just enough to take as interception casualties to maximize the amount of other allied planes getting there since the battle for moscow was going to be razor thin. If I had thought that was an accident I would have let you know about it, but I had expected you to do that and didn’t think anything of it.

The tac bombers should have clued me in on that but I wasn’t really paying attention to your plane allocation, just to optimizing my move

ok so on this turn, japan would’ve bombed, uk earned 4, then germany moves to bryansk,russians are stuck there, same with mericans, uk planes make it so do anzac.

@trulpen said in L21 #1 WindowWasher (X) vs trulpen (A+24) BM3:

a) The purchase with US was pretty dumb, but that’s not much to do.

yeah sure

@trulpen said in L21 #1 WindowWasher (X) vs trulpen (A+24) BM3:

b) Since I wanted to get the 2 figs to Calcutta, but couldn’t, is it ok to have them landed in WI?

russian figs? sure i guess

@trulpen said in L21 #1 WindowWasher (X) vs trulpen (A+24) BM3:

c) Did an edit with pansar to Greece. May I reconsider that? Have some air that can land instead.

ye

@trulpen said in L21 #1 WindowWasher (X) vs trulpen (A+24) BM3:

d) May I allocate the US fig in Afghanistan to a suicide mission on Calcutta? Forgot about that one.

gl

J 12 fully bomb airbase
US 12 figs stay
UK 12 figs stay, earn 5 finish with 7
AZ 12 figs stay
G 13 moves army to bryansk
R 13 airbase is still bombed at this point cant get back
US 13 ^^^
UK 13 repair airbase, planes to Moscow
AZ 13 fly planes to Moscow

so US and Russian planes don’t make it back in time giving germany a 100% on moscow with 40 troops left more or less

alternative is after bombing you move figs 4 spaces away from moscow and abandon india

@trulpen sure

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 12

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 12

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Hawaiian Islands: 2 fighters and 2 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 26 Sea Zone: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Americans owned units to: carrier = 1
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Western United States: 1 artillery and 3 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Western United States: 2 bombers
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 10 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 30 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 infantry moved from Spain to Normandy Bordeaux
              Americans take Normandy Bordeaux from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Spain to Southern France
              Americans take Southern France from Italians
        1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 12 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 12 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 55 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        EDIT: 2 fighters moved from Russia to West India
        EDIT: 2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Greece to Afghanistan
        1 submarine moved from 45 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
              Americans take 35 Sea Zone from Japanese
              Americans take 20 Sea Zone from Japanese
        1 submarine moved from 45 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        3 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        5 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
        8 infantry and 4 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers and 4 destroyers moved from 55 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Territory to 55 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
        1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 44 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        8 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
        1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Morocco to Greece
        1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
        8 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
        3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Spain to Southern France
        5 artilleries moved from Spain to Southern France
        6 infantry moved from Spain to Southern France
        2 aaGuns moved from Spain to Southern France
        1 infantry moved from Spain to Southern France
        4 carriers, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        8 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Afghanistan to Greece
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to Wake Island
        1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to Wake Island

    Place Units - Americans
        1 factory_minor placed in Spain
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers placed in Western United States
        1 bomber placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 67 PUs; end with 67 PUs
        Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
        Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 87 PUs
        Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 92 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 97 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 12

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 12

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        2 infantry moved from Hopei to Anhwe
        2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Anhwe
        1 fighter moved from Suiyuyan to Anhwe

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Anhwe
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry
            Japanese defend with 3 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 3 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Anhwe
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Anhwe, round 3 : 0/5 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Anhwe, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Anhwe
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Anhwe, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Anhwe, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Anhwe
            Chinese win, taking Anhwe from Japanese with 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Japanese: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Hopei
        1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow
        1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Hopei

    Place Units - Chinese
        3 infantry placed in Hopei

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 10 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0,33
Japanese regular : -1,33

Savegame

tanks to Afghanistan is a no-go, i wouldn’t have even put my fleet on Hawaii or done the casualties the way I did them if that were in place