@cwglee51 I run into an error trying to open the file. “Null pointer exception.”
Maybe it is an issue with us using incombatible versions. What version are you using?
L21 Amon-Sul (Axis) vs Pejon_88 (Allies + 16)
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Interesting situation we have.
I am curious about Russian move.
Not so much because of Japan, but the European front.
cheers
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 10
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 10 Purchase Units - Russians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 113 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 115 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Sumatra: 1 bomber EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Shan State: 1 bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Shan State: 1 bomber EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Turkey: 1 bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Russians buy 2 artilleries and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia 2 infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Rostov 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Novgorod Combat - Russians Battle in Novgorod Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Novgorod, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Novgorod, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Novgorod, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry Battle in Northwest Persia Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northwest Persia 1 fighter owned by the Russians retreated Italians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Rostov Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov Russians win, taking Rostov from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 artillery moved from Volgograd to Caucasus 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Sikang to Shensi 1 mech_infantry moved from Vologda to Novosibirsk 1 infantry moved from Urals to Evenkiyskiy 1 infantry moved from Urals to Timguska 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Russia 1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 fighter moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Rostov to Russia Place Units - Russians 1 infantry placed in Volgograd 2 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 25 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0,67 Germans regular : 0,33 Russians regular : -0,33 -
@pejon_88 Stalin is fighting bravely, but has a tough time.
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Stalin is a bitch.
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According to Hitler.
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@pejon_88 said in L21 Amon-Sul (Axis) vs Pejon_88 (Allies + 16):
@pejon_88 Stalin is fighting bravely, but has a tough time.
I love the Italian Russian encounters.
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Bad dice for the Axis
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 10
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 10 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese repair damage of 3x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 65 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Japanese buy 2 destroyers, 9 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 units repaired. 1 artillery moved from Olgiy to Kansu 1 mech_infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu 2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma Japanese take Burma from UK_Pacific 1 infantry moved from Shan State to Malaya Japanese take Malaya from UK_Pacific 8 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Shan State to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hopei Japanese take Hopei from Chinese 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to Szechwan 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan Combat - Japanese Battle in Kansu Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kansu Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Kansu, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Kansu, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Kansu, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Kansu, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Kansu Chinese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Szechwan Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Szechwan, round 2 : 5/8 hits, 3.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 8 artilleries, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 8 artilleries, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 8/16 hits, 6.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 8 artilleries, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 battleships, 3 carriers and 2 cruisers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 3 destroyers moved from 20 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from 36 Sea Zone to Philippines 2 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 aaGun moved from Olgiy to Dzavhan 1 armour moved from Tsagaan Olom to Dzavhan 1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Dzavhan 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan 1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Kweichow 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Szechwan to Shan State 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Shan State 1 aaGun moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 1 aaGun moved from Kweichow to Yunnan Place Units - Japanese 4 infantry placed in Japan 3 mech_infantrys placed in Manchuria 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Kiangsu 3 infantry placed in Kwangtung 2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 36 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 68 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 2.00 Japanese regular : 0.67 -
Nonetheless, Japan is back!
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 10
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 10 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese repair damage of 3x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 65 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Japanese buy 2 destroyers, 9 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 units repaired. 1 artillery moved from Olgiy to Kansu 1 mech_infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu 2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma Japanese take Burma from UK_Pacific 1 infantry moved from Shan State to Malaya Japanese take Malaya from UK_Pacific 8 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Shan State to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hopei Japanese take Hopei from Chinese 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to Szechwan 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan Combat - Japanese Battle in Kansu Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kansu Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Kansu, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Kansu, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Kansu, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Kansu, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Kansu Chinese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Szechwan Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Szechwan, round 2 : 5/8 hits, 3.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 8 artilleries, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 8 artilleries, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 8/16 hits, 6.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 8 artilleries, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 battleships, 3 carriers and 2 cruisers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 3 destroyers moved from 20 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from 36 Sea Zone to Philippines 2 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 aaGun moved from Olgiy to Dzavhan 1 armour moved from Tsagaan Olom to Dzavhan 1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Dzavhan 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan 1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Kweichow 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Szechwan to Shan State 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Shan State 1 aaGun moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 1 aaGun moved from Kweichow to Yunnan Place Units - Japanese 4 infantry placed in Japan 3 mech_infantrys placed in Manchuria 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Kiangsu 3 infantry placed in Kwangtung 2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 36 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 68 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 35 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 36 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 2.00 Japanese regular : 0.67 -
Triple allied move to go…
cheers
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@amon-sul Yes I saw that! And great defense on my part.
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@amon-sul Yup, good income!
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@pejon_88 said in L21 Amon-Sul (Axis) vs Pejon_88 (Allies + 16):
@amon-sul Yup, good income!
Not as nice as USA one, but I wont complain.
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We are soon finishing 10 turns of the game.
Quite a record in this 10 rounds, the game still open, both sides loaded with money and units.
So cool :)
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@amon-sul Yeah :)
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@pejon_88 said in L21 Amon-Sul (Axis) vs Pejon_88 (Allies + 16):
@amon-sul Yeah :)
Will try and play today.I am excited as almost as Trulpen. But maybe even more , since I have only one game , and he a dozen at a time xd
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@amon-sul Haha, maybe you should start an additional one then ;)
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@pejon_88 said in L21 Amon-Sul (Axis) vs Pejon_88 (Allies + 16):
@amon-sul Haha, maybe you should start an additional one then ;)
Yay!
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TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 10
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 10 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 8 infantry, 2 submarines and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 2 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 bomber moved from India to Szechwan 6 fighters moved from Shensi to Szechwan Combat - Americans Battle in Szechwan Americans attack with 1 bomber and 6 fighters Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 6 fighters in Szechwan, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Szechwan Americans win with 1 bomber and 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7 Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Americans attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour Americans roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2,50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Normandy Bordeaux Americans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Italians with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery Battle in Holland Belgium Americans attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 2 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans and 3 fighters owned by the Americans retreated Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Venezuela to 89 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 bomber moved from Szechwan to India 5 fighters moved from Szechwan to Caucasus 1 mech_infantry moved from New Britain to 47 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 47 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry, 3 submarines and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Wake Island to 54 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Wake Island Place Units - Americans 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone 8 infantry placed in Central United States 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone 2 fighters placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 61 PUs; end with 61 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 76 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 86 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -3,17 Italians regular : -0,33 Japanese regular : 0,67 Germans regular : 1,33
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