I should be able to do ANZAC & France in 30 minutes. So you will have something to do on a Friday evening 😀
L21 Amon-Sul (Axis) vs Pejon_88 (Allies + 16)
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I never see early Russian help to China, besides myself I havent seen anybody doing it.
interesting
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this is a very interesting game all in all
we ll see what comes.
i like it :)
pretty unpredictable ha
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@Amon-Sul said in L21 Amon-Sul (Axis) vs Pejon_88 (Allies + 16):
so just to know for future games…
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if u hadnt declared war to Japan with Russia, U couldnt pick up Mongolian dudes with Russia?
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But could U pick it up with (other) allies?
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And could U pick it up with Russia without declaring war to Japan, once USA and UK are allied to Russia?
All of the following answers apply with the state of this game for Russia’s 3rd turn:
- Correct because without doing so, Russia would not be at a state of war with Japan that turn
- Correct (with the exception of China, which has its own restrictions)
- Incorrect. Russia MUST be in a state of war with Japan to move any of its units to non-Russian territory on the Pacific map.
Below I’ve quoted the relevant bits from the rules, in case that helps.
Page 35 [Europe 1940 Rulebook, 2nd ed.] rules:
The Soviet Union, due to its separate treaties with Germany and Japan, was in a unique position in its relationship with the Axis powers. As a result, if the Soviet Union is at war with Axis powers on only one map, it is still under the restrictions of being a neutral power (see Powers That Begin the Game Neutral, pg. 15) on the other map. In other words, a state of war with Japan lifts those restrictions from the USSR on the Pacific map only, and a state of war with Germany and/or Italy lifts those restrictions on the Europe map only.
From page 15:
Neutral Powers: When a power is not at war with anyone, it is neutral. Powers that begin the game
neutral, such as the United States and the Soviet Union, aren’t initially part of the Allies or the Axis. The
Axis powers are on the opposite side of these neutral powers, but they are not yet considered enemies.
While a power remains neutral, it operates under even tighter restrictions. A neutral power can’t move
land or air units into or through neutral territories. It can’t move units into or through territories or onto
ships belonging to another power or use another power’s naval bases, nor can another power move
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thanks a lot wheatbeer.
this is rare case, but its good to have the rules clear 100 %
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as for sz 54 battle i decided its totally unlogical for U to scramble,
but if U wish to try ur luck with those figs,
be my guest
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@Amon-Sul and @wheatbeer Thanks wheatbeer and yes very unusual and interesting game :)
Will look at it soon I hope. Have three other league games running too.
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Happy New Year, and may the best dude wins!
P. S. I hope U re not angry I took Ur homeland.
I had to, 8 IPC is too much xd
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@Amon-Sul Happy new year to you too! I am very much looking forward to this game, don’t think otherwise it is just that I have three very intense games running which are all undecided right now. That is the only reason why I have not played for a while I thought since we just started and that this is for L21 you would not mind :)
With that said I will really try and play tomorrow!
Cheers!
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@Amon-Sul Haha Sweden! Maybe I need to punish the dudes in Yugoslavia a bit extra now ;)
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@Panther @gamerman01 Has any of you seen this before? Same error when I try and post in the thread. Have not had this issue before.
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I can confirm that this seems to be a problem for others as well: https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/36014/pejon_88-x-vs-simon33-allies-16-3rd-game/156?_=1609848813812
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@pejon_88
I suppose the error is related to the recent update of the forum software.There is a thread in the TripleA support category:
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@panther Thanks!
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it seems its a forum issue?
@Pejon_88
u can bypass it by manually copy pasteing the move hereand posting the map here manually
but if u cant dice, then its a problem
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@amon-sul Oh right! I will do that instead until the issue is fixed :)
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TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Americans Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Chile Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Argentina Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Venezuela Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Sweden Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Switzerland Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Spain Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Portugal Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Turkey Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Saudi Arabia Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Afghanistan Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Mozambique Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Angola Trigger Americans Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from Western United States to Eastern United States 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 49 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 46 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Central United States 1 fighter placed in Western United States Note to players Americans: <body>America has joined the Allies, and declared war on the Axis!</body> Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 6 infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei 1 fighter moved from Shensi to Chahar 2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar 3 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Hopei Combat - Chinese Battle in Chahar Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Chahar Chinese win, taking Chahar from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Hopei Chinese attack with 9 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 9 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 2/9 hits, 1,50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei Chinese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Chahar to Kansu Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Hopei Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0,67 Japanese regular : -0,67 -
TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Americans Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Chile Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Argentina Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Venezuela Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Sweden Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Switzerland Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Spain Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Portugal Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Turkey Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Saudi Arabia Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Afghanistan Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Mozambique Trigger Americans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Angola Trigger Americans Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from Western United States to Eastern United States 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 49 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 46 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Central United States 1 fighter placed in Western United States Note to players Americans: <body>America has joined the Allies, and declared war on the Axis!</body> Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs Trigger Russians Allied Americans 4: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 6 infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei 1 fighter moved from Shensi to Chahar 2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar 3 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Hopei Combat - Chinese Battle in Chahar Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Chahar Chinese win, taking Chahar from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Hopei Chinese attack with 9 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 9 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 2/9 hits, 1,50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei Chinese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Chahar to Kansu Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Hopei Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 2 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 fighter and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Politics - British Trigger British Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Chile Trigger British Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Argentina Trigger British Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Venezuela Trigger British Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Sweden Trigger British Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Switzerland Trigger British Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Spain Trigger British Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Portugal Trigger British Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Turkey Trigger British Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Saudi Arabia Trigger British Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Afghanistan Trigger British Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Mozambique Trigger British Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Angola Trigger British Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians Combat Move - British 3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 105 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 121 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 117 Sea Zone to 121 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria British take Alexandria from Italians Combat - British British creates battle in territory 106 Sea Zone Battle in 121 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer Germans defend with 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 destroyer in 121 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 121 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 121 Sea Zone British win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Battle in 105 Sea Zone British attack with 3 fighters Germans defend with 1 destroyer British roll dice for 3 fighters in 105 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 105 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 105 Sea Zone British win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - British 3 fighters moved from 105 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 121 Sea Zone to Quebec 2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Tanganyika Territory to 72 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kenya to Egypt 1 carrier, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 76 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 72 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 fighter moved from 76 Sea Zone to India 1 fighter moved from Union of South Africa to Egypt 1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 3 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Burma to India Place Units - British 2 infantry placed in Egypt 1 submarine placed in 81 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 71 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 106 Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4 UK_Pacific collect 3 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 4 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 7 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 1 fighter and 4 infantry Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Egypt: 2 fighters EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 81 Sea Zone: 2 fighters EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0,67 Japanese regular : -0,67 Germans regular : -0,50 British regular : 0,50 -
@pejon_88 Finally! Sorry about that.
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@pejon_88 Sorry i was busy, couldnt open the map before now
will try to play the move now
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