Sub Movement through hostile SZ to Attack Another Hostile SZ

Per page 9 of the Rulebook, hostile sea zones are those which contain enemy surface warships. The condition of adjacent territories has no bearing on it.

@RYNO87 said in Particular Combat movements for Subs and Planes:

Let’s say a sea unit retreats in their combat move from 1 hostile SZ into another hostile SZ with less enemies, does combat have to commence?

Combat will result in any case in which units from opposing sides are in the same space during the Combat phase, regardless of how they got there.

@RYNO87 said in Defender Sub sneak attack:

Have a question about sneak attack order with a destroyer. Lets say the attacker has 1 sub and a cruiser and defender has a sub and destroyer. I understand that the attacker sub can’t sneak attack (due to the defender destroyer) but would the defender sub get to sneak attack before the attacker gets his combat turn?

Exactly. The defending destroyer cancels the attacking submarine’s surprise strike ability. So the defending submarine gets its surprise strike before.

Welcome to the forum, Guitarboo88.

You are right - and your cousin is wrong:

@rulebook:

Air Units
Each air unit that moves in the Combat Move phase must generally reserve
part of its Move value for the Noncombat Move phase, when it must return
to a safe landing place using its remaining movement. See page 23 for
examples.
An air unit’s movement in any complete turn is limited to its total Move
value. For example, a bomber has Move 6, but it cannot move 6 spaces to
end its movement in a hostile space. It must save enough movement points
to get to a friendly territory where it can land. A fighter can move up to its
full Move value of 4 to attack in a sea zone, but only if a carrier could be
there for it to land on by the end of the Mobilize New Units phase.

HTH :-)

@mikemikemike said in Submarine surprise attack:

@krieghund said in Submarine surprise attack:

A unit that takes a hit from a Surprise Strike is removed immediately and does not return fire.  The only exceptions are a battleship which is taking its first hit (as it not destroyed) and a sub which also gets a Surprise Strike (as it is firing at the same time).

And an Aircraft Carrier, too.

Carriers do not have two hits in this game.

yeah i have 8 dice, and dont use the ones that came with the game if i can help it cause they have rounded corners and spin all day

@UtahJazzfan8:

Weather sucks here also. It’s been windy and rainy… probably in the mid 30s right now!!!  :-P

Thanks for the tips. I’m hoping to start my first game of A&A tomorrow after work.

2 feet of snow just dropped in a few hours here lol :P.

I wish you luck, I’m sure you’ll have fun.

@tbt_delta:

I believe this is only true if you are performing an amphibious assault.  If you are offloading in a friendly territory (moving in non-combat), then you can ignore enemy subs.

This is correct. The exact text states

…a transport cannot ignore enemy submarines to offload land units for an amphibious assault unless at least one warship belonging to the attacking power is also present in the sea zone at the end of the Combat Move phase.

One additional note: It appears that a transport CAN ignore enemy transports to offload land units during an amphibious assault.