WindowWasher (X) vs Surfer (L+18) BM #4

TripleA Turn Summary: ANZAC round 26

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 26

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
        1 bomber moved from Northern Territory to 37 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone

    Combat - ANZAC
        Battle in Celebes
        Battle in 37 Sea Zone
            ANZAC attack with 1 bomber and 1 submarine
            Japanese defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 bomber in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 37 Sea Zone
            Japanese and ANZAC reach a stalemate
            , taking Celebes from Japanese. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to India
        2 aaGuns, 2 armour and 1 marine moved from Northern Territory to Queensland
        1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
        1 transport placed in 54 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Queensland
        2 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 18 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 21 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.50
ANZAC regular : 0.00

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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 26

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 26

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
        1 bomber moved from Northern Territory to 37 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone

    Combat - ANZAC
        Battle in Celebes
        Battle in 37 Sea Zone
            ANZAC attack with 1 bomber and 1 submarine
            Japanese defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 bomber in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 37 Sea Zone
            Japanese and ANZAC reach a stalemate
            , taking Celebes from Japanese. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to India
        2 aaGuns, 2 armour and 1 marine moved from Northern Territory to Queensland
        1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
        1 transport placed in 54 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Queensland
        2 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 18 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 21 PUs

    Purchase Units - French
        French repair damage of 1x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 19 PUs; 
        French buy 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - French
        2 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
        1 fighter moved from France to Holland Belgium

    Combat - French
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            French attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                French roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Holland Belgium
            French win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to France

    Place Units - French
        2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in France
        3 infantry placed in Southern France

    Turn Complete - French
        French collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -0.67
Japanese regular : 0.50
ANZAC regular : 0.00
Germans regular : -0.67

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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 27

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 27

    Combat Move - Russians
        2 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Persia to Iraq

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Iraq
            Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Iraq
            1 fighter owned by the Russians and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians retreated
            Germans win with 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Persia
        9 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
        3 aaGuns, 8 artilleries and 25 infantry moved from Burma to India

    Turn Complete - Russians

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 1.00
Russians regular : 0.50

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@windowwasher huh??

@windowwasher but arent bombers 14

Or are these BM3 rules = bmb 12

@windowwasher I think you mean…double price and value of all territories+objectives so that you have 2x money but 2x cost, so net change should be nothing. Then adjust, prices to change relative strengths of units, right?

Similarly, increase all rolls by 2, but add d12 so again no change.

Are you proposing to do both?

The trick becomes in what do you want to make “fair”

As it stands, no two units are “fair”. Each has a role and more importantly should be coupled with others to make a fighting force.

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 27

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 27

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 11 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 armour moved from Persia to Iraq
              Americans take Iraq from Germans
        1 armour moved from Iraq to Persia
        2 infantry moved from France to Northern Italy
        1 artillery moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
        1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Northern Italy
        1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Northern Italy
        1 armour moved from Karelia to Vyborg
              Americans take Vyborg from Germans
        1 armour moved from Vyborg to Finland

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Northern Italy
            Americans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Northern Italy
                Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Italy, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Northern Italy
                Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Italy, round 4 : 3/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Northern Italy, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Northern Italy
            Americans win, taking Northern Italy from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Italy to France
        2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 10 infantry and 6 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Southern France to France
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 aaGun, 6 armour, 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 19 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Karelia to Finland
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        6 mech_infantrys moved from Finland to Norway
        1 armour moved from Finland to Norway
        1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to France
        1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to France
        1 fighter moved from Finland to Norway
        5 armour moved from Finland to Norway
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Americans
        3 infantry placed in Norway
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Persia
        1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
        1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 6 infantry placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 62 PUs; end with 62 PUs
        Trigger Americans 5 Presence In France: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
        Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
        Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 87 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 92 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 97 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0.33
Italians regular : 0.00

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TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 27

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 27

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        33 infantry moved from Szechwan to Shensi

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Shensi
            Chinese attack with 33 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 33 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 7/33 hits, 5.50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shensi
            Chinese win, taking Shensi from Japanese with 33 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese

    Place Units - Chinese
        1 infantry placed in Shensi

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 2 PUs; end with 2 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 1.50
Japanese regular : -0.33

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 27

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 27

    Combat Move - British
        1 mech_infantry moved from Rhodesia to Kenya
        2 fighters moved from Union of South Africa to Kenya
        1 bomber moved from France to Western Germany
        1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Western Germany
        2 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
        3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
        1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        2 fighters moved from France to Western Germany
        1 fighter moved from France to Holland Belgium
        1 armour moved from India to Burma
              UK_Pacific take Burma from Japanese
        1 armour moved from Burma to India
        5 artilleries and 35 infantry moved from Szechwan to Sikang

    Combat - British
        Air Battle in Western Germany

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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