L20 Bretters Axis VS Oysteilo Allies +14 BM3


  • @oysteilo no scramble… :( :(


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 20

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

    Game History

    Round: 20
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans repair damage of 3x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 93 PUs; 
            Americans buy 1 airfield, 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 9 infantry and 4 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam
            2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
            2 bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Northern Italy
            2 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to Northern Italy
            3 artilleries moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
            2 armour moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
            5 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to Tunisia
            5 infantry moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry and 6 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 6 transports moved from 96 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Tunisia
            2 infantry moved from Spain to 93 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Tunisia
            2 fighters moved from Manchuria to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Midway to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 25 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Americans creates battle in territory 54 Sea Zone
            Battle in 17 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 17 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking 54 Sea Zone from Japanese, taking 17 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in Guam
            Battle in Tunisia
                Americans attack with 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 fighters, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians defend with 3 artilleries and 2 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 fighters, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 12/20 hits, 7,00 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 3 artilleries and 2 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans, 3 artilleries owned by the Italians and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tunisia
                Americans win, taking Guam from Japanese, taking Tunisia from Italians with 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 3 artilleries and 2 infantry
            Battle in Northern Italy
                Americans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 factory_major and 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Northern Italy
                Americans converts factory_major into different units
                Americans win, taking Northern Italy from Italians with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Americans attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                Americans win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 2 bombers and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in 25 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 25 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 25 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 25 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 25 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 7 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer and 5 transports
                    Americans roll dice for 7 fighters in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3,50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 5 transports in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    2 transports owned by the Japanese and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                    3 transports owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 7 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 43
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer and 5 transports
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            3 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to Manchuria
            4 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 25 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 carrier moved from 26 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 10 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Spain to 93 Sea Zone
            3 carriers, 3 destroyers, 2 infantry and 8 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Italy to 94 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Southern France
            11 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
            4 fighters moved from Tunisia to 94 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Tunisia to Algeria
            2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier and 4 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 airfield placed in Algeria
            3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            3 infantry placed in Spain
            1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Southern France
            1 infantry placed in Western United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 68 PUs; end with 69 PUs
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
            Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 89 PUs
            Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 94 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 99 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 104 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 4,17
    Japanese regular : 0,33
    Italians regular : -1,00
    Germans regular : -0,67
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 20

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

    Game History

    Round: 20
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
            Chinese buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
    
        Combat - Chinese
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            8 infantry placed in Manchuria
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 23 PUs; end with 25 PUs
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 28 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 20

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

    Game History

    Round: 20
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans repair damage of 3x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 93 PUs; 
            Americans buy 1 airfield, 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 9 infantry and 4 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam
            2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
            2 bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Northern Italy
            2 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to Northern Italy
            3 artilleries moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
            2 armour moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
            5 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to Tunisia
            5 infantry moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry and 6 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 6 transports moved from 96 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Tunisia
            2 infantry moved from Spain to 93 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Tunisia
            2 fighters moved from Manchuria to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Midway to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 25 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Americans creates battle in territory 54 Sea Zone
            Battle in 17 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 17 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking 54 Sea Zone from Japanese, taking 17 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in Guam
            Battle in Tunisia
                Americans attack with 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 fighters, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians defend with 3 artilleries and 2 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 fighters, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 12/20 hits, 7,00 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 3 artilleries and 2 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans, 3 artilleries owned by the Italians and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tunisia
                Americans win, taking Guam from Japanese, taking Tunisia from Italians with 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 3 artilleries and 2 infantry
            Battle in Northern Italy
                Americans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 factory_major and 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Northern Italy
                Americans converts factory_major into different units
                Americans win, taking Northern Italy from Italians with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Americans attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                Americans win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 2 bombers and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in 25 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 25 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 25 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 25 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 25 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 7 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer and 5 transports
                    Americans roll dice for 7 fighters in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3,50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 5 transports in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    2 transports owned by the Japanese and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                    3 transports owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 7 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 43
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer and 5 transports
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            3 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to Manchuria
            4 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 25 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 carrier moved from 26 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 10 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Spain to 93 Sea Zone
            3 carriers, 3 destroyers, 2 infantry and 8 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Italy to 94 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Southern France
            11 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
            4 fighters moved from Tunisia to 94 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Tunisia to Algeria
            2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier and 4 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 airfield placed in Algeria
            3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            3 infantry placed in Spain
            1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Southern France
            1 infantry placed in Western United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 68 PUs; end with 69 PUs
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
            Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 89 PUs
            Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 94 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 99 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 104 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
            Chinese buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
    
        Combat - Chinese
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            8 infantry placed in Manchuria
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 23 PUs; end with 25 PUs
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 28 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
                  UK_Pacific take French Indo China from Japanese
    
        Combat - British
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kwangtung to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from West India to India
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to Algeria
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 fighter placed in Kwangtung
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3
            UK_Pacific collect 8 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 8 PUs
            Some Units in Kwangtung change ownership: 1 fighter
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 4,17
    Japanese regular : 0,33
    Italians regular : -1,00
    Germans regular : -0,67
    

    Savegame


  • @bretters said in L20 Bretters Axis VS Oysteilo Allies +14 BM3:

    @oysteilo no scramble… :( :(

    i like your style, but you play too fast and too reckless… :(


  • @oysteilo im done with this game gg


  • @oysteilo
    I held on to this game when I should have quit a long time ago because i had London , Italy was doing well of course and for those last few turns the US attention was not in the pacific and Japan started taking territory and putting in work , but it wasn’t gonna be enough , especially after losing 5 transports and the situation in Europe/Russia


  • great game and fun to play! A couple of things. i think this game was lost for you many rounds ago. Although I cant say exactely when.

    I like your buy G1. It does not look to sharp at first but it does a nice job in the sea lion. I dont protect London good enough because of that silly Normandy attack. And then there is suddenly a game when you score well above average in the sea lion. BUT you can not let me blow up your transports like that. A carrier G3 would have saved the day. Imagine you could ship cheep infantry to Russia afterwards…

    With Italy. You have to buy destroyers and kill some subs, they are killing you. You could easily do this when I was busy in 109.

    Maybe a transport in south africa to go and pick up some neutrals in south america?

    You are a good player, but you need to protect your transports better with Germany and Japan. When moving the big nations its important to spend some time…

    Good luck from here!


  • @oysteilo ah yea South America but none of those territories are worth anything I don’t think and you have the naval edge so it would have been tricky transporting duoes back to Africa and very slow to get them all The way to the Middle East
    Also… I’ve done sea lion a good number of times and you are the only one who has put US units in range to attack the German navy on turn 3. I’ve never had the German navy attacked immediately after a sea lion any other time.
    Japan … I usually struggle playing Japan ha. Italy probably at some point when you had those subs in the med could have maybe built a destroyer or 2 but you saw I was focused on placing units in Iraq and Egypt and protecting against a naval assault on Rome


  • Its a known strategy to buy bombers with usa to blow up german navy after sea lion. It means the german land units surviving sea lion is stuck in England: Advantage Russia.

    Argentina and Chile are worth 2 each as well as 6 inf. And no, the point is to let them sit in South america. Maybe take Brazil. It is a hazzle for usa to deal with it.

    Count up the convoy damage for italy and see where you sre at. I bet 2 destroyers would have at least halfed the damage!


  • @oysteilo again - i have not been attacked by US aircraft after a sealion ever except for in this game or have i seen it in any other game. also - if Germany lands in Scotland round 2 then the only place for US bombers to land is Ireland. ill take your word for it about destroyers in the med lol. so yea - i should have also went for south america with Italy after you attacked the neutrals.

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