Submarine-related Issues with TripleA

@ubernaut

Thank you!

@Gargantua Right. The issues are already addressed:

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35803/battle-calculator-not-working
and
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35846/submarine-related-issues-with-triplea

and have been analyzed by the developers here:

https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/7848

As far as I have understood the problems occur when not all players are on the most current stable version. Once a game is either started with an older release or a savegame started with the current version is opened with an older version the games are somehow corrupted.

This is why I have added the following note to some of the stickies here:

Note:
Problems in games started in the past cannot be resolved by updating the TripleA client, as updating the client does not change the game information stored in savegame files. In other words: As long as nobody starts new games with up-to-date clients and maps, the problems, saved in savegame-files, will be carried over and continue.

Also: To avoid issues it is always recommended that all players use the latest stable version to beginn new games. So when playing together, reassure yourself that everyone is up-to date.

The consensus is that we’re wrong.

I’m not whining about the dice. It works both ways.

I remember rolling like 18 tanks @3 by hand (Germany stack just inside Russia) and getting like 3 or 4 hits in a table top game 1st roll (don’t remember the exact amount but it was pathetically below average). My stack was defending. I messed up where I placed it. It was against a guy with a screen name of Jonathan Rost (playing the Global 1942 setup).

I lost that game due partly due to that ridiculous outcome (probably would have lost it anyways, Jonathan is really good). Anyways, I understand that outliers occur. HOWEVER, they occur way too often it seems in triplea. However, I’m often I’m a benefactor.

So, it’s good to keep in mind that outlier outcomes, like 4 infantry rolling 4 defense hits 1st round while a stack of planes throws a miss, does happen; but it happens for both sides.

I do believe that AAA hit more than 1/6 overall against bombing runs.

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=41002.msg1717622#msg1717622

I wasn’t sure where to put this, but it is an unresolved issue.  Could we create a “tip jar” for the creator?  Or swear on our dead horse that we will eventually purchase a physical copy of AnA in order to protect intellectual property rights?  Do I think most of us already have a copy?  Yes.  Multiple editions?  Yes.  I just wish there was some way to express that.

It works in reverse, I think.  New players who might be exposed to triplea first will inevitably buy a physical copy.  These things must have crossed someone else’s mind, no?

@Gargantua:

{flame removed}

Good work Hobbes on getting a working V5/V6 going.  It’s nice to see such a quick transition from game release, to TripleA readiness!

Just don’t pay too much attention to the graphic look… I couldn’t wait anymore until my ordered Spring 1942 2nd Ed arrives at my local store (takes quite a while usually) ;)

@Veqryn:

i guess we should leave it with solution 1.

most players will not be aware of the need to use edit mode to delete units, even if I post a giant news item somewhere

Yes, I agree. It would be difficult to bring this to everyone’s attention.
@Veqryn:

ps: triplea 1.5.1 is out

Great, I will test it this evening.

Thank you :-)

Sounds like the version you are using is still the “hacked” version that was never part of the sourceforge project.  Therefore, nothing is supported in your version, and nothing will ever be fixed in your version.  The unstable version at triplea.sourceforge.net are at least supported by the tripleA development team, so there may still be bugs with them, but at least any bugs will be fixed in future releases.

I’d recommend running (not walking) to triplea.sourceforge.net and downloading the lastest unstable release 0.9.4.1 (since no stable releases yet have support for PBEM).

Convince your opponent to use the same version - it shouldn’t be hard if they were using the same version you had (that you say doesn’t work any more).

Never mind, I figured it out. Suffice it to say, my game interface looks NOTHING like that shown in the readme files or on the sourceforge website.  If you are having a similiar problem, you have to click on load new game on the left hand side of the screen, and pick your game version from the various xml files there.