Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Malta: 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Germans buy nothing; Remaining resources: 49 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Halifax Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from British Convoy 4 Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 transport moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Poland to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Germany to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Germany to English Channel Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Denmark Strait Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone Germans take Soviet Convoy Sea Zone from Russians 1 submarine moved from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone to Barents Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from France to English Channel Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to English Channel Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Poland to Baltic States 3 infantry moved from Rumania to Bessarabia 1 armour moved from Rumania to Bessarabia 3 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland 2 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Hungary to East Poland 3 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Combat - Germans Battle in North Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 transport British defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans win with 3 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine and 1 transport Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 2 transports Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 2 transports Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to France: 1 aaGun and 1 factory EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Trans-Jordan: 1 aaGun and 1 factory EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in English Channel Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans win with 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Battle in Vyborg Germans attack with 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans win, taking Vyborg from Russians with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport British defend with 1 destroyer Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Bessarabia Germans attack with 1 armour and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 infantry Battle in Gibraltar Battle in East Poland Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 5 infantry Russians defend with 4 infantry 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Poland Russians win, taking Gibraltar from British with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry Russians defend with 3 infantry 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 2 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Poland Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Austria to Hungary 2 armour moved from Northern Italy to Hungary 1 infantry moved from Rumania to Hungary 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Czechoslovakia to Poland 2 armour moved from Germany to Poland 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Rumania 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 2 armour moved from France to Germany 2 armour moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Poland 1 infantry moved from Denmark to Germany 2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 2 fighters moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Norway 3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 4 infantry moved from Eastern France to Germany 2 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium 2 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium 1 artillery moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium 1 fighter moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Norway 2 fighters moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 fighter moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 bomber moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Germany 1 fighter moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria 4 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 2 artilleries moved from Germany to Poland Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 40 PUs; end with 89 PUsMainah (X) vs Stough (L) OOB
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There we go. On to the Italians.
But back to my bid question- what would be the bid for this version of play?
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Also, next time. (hopefully you will want a next time) I would still like to be the Allies. I feel like they are easily the weakest side for me to learn about. I think the Allies start out with the steepest learning curve. Both sides are tough to understand. But the Axis have a huge variety of options to win and, to me, look like the funner side to play, which is another reason why I’d like to raise my Allies game first.
The main thing that is killing me is my lack of knowledge in this games tactics. Your game in that regard is outstanding.
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@Stough
OOB - out of box. The set-up and rules from the box game. Since its release, the rules/set up have gone through 3 major adjustments by larry harris. I think the final revesion was like 7 years ago. Since then certain strategies have been developed that make it next to impossible for the allies to win. We are playing OOB. The bid range is high 30’s to low 50’s for the allies in this iteration.
Since then, various people have come up with ways to balance the game. BM3, created on triplea is the most popular on this site, though i see a new version, with a new map, being play tested.
I would love another game - but I encourage you to try axis. It will help you “think like the enemy,” becoming a better allies player.
Thank you for the compliment, but i have to tell you - while my tatics might be pretty good, my strategy needs a lot of work. Iam getting bmy but hamded to me by another player right now in another game. I too have a LOT to learn. -
@Stough
Feel free to look at other games. You can download them same way you download ours - and just open in “play local”. Then you can go to the game menu, select game history, and look at each move. That is how i got my running start. -
@Stough
In the play board games forum - there is mainah vs wizmark and wizmark vs mainah. You’ll see what i mean by getting my but kicked.
But its a fun and educational but kicking. -
@mainah :grinning: :grinning: 😉
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I looked at a game between Trumpien and the guy who came up with J-1, I forget his name, It was way over my head, but it helped me get a better feel. I’ve also been checking out a tutor game from a while ago where the community explains what and why. Trulpen and AndrewAAgamer are the leads on that one.
I think it will take a few more game plays for me to start seeing things more clearly. The switch from the board map to this one is jarring in itself.
For this game, I am just intrigued by how the game develops over time.
It’s precisely this point in the game where I want to see what happens. For me, it’s a struggle, because I want to play aggressively, but I think that would lead to odd occurrences that normally wouldn’t happen. So, for me, I’ve been trying to take as few chances as possible and just slowly build and see what that does.Your German attack is mostly what I expected as to pace (not to placement- had no clue there). I am a bit shocked that despite the massive amount of early infantry buy and clearing out of almost all assets out of Western Europe that the Russians were still able to hold Bryansk in turn 4.
I take it as a moral victory that Moscow will not fall in turn 5 or 6. (please don’t disabuse me of this delusion)
Strategically, the German drive to the south of Pripet was unexpected. As soon as you massed your guys in East Poland- I was thinking, “Uh oh, I have no idea what I’m doing”. I was hoping for a drive North.
With the Japanese, the whole game has been a 'WTF is happening". Never seen or read about a J2, every single move has been unexpected and jaw dropping. It’s been like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
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@Stough
I think in OOB J1 is the most common. I tried out the standard variations against myself - and never liked any of them. It might be because of my limited experience, but i view the benefit of the TUV swing for japan is out weighed by the lack of any positional advantage, the limited IPC gained by what is captured, and the immediate bump in USA money and the USA is now in the war.
In the balance mod - from what i have read - J3 is the most common, and I’m finding out why (via the but kicking from Wiz) but i think there is value in a J2 if it is done right, especially if it is unexpected. But i definitely didn’t do it right against Wiz. Your conservative play is allowing for an effective J2 this game, but i still think the strategy and the purchases i made need more tweaking. -
@Stough
In my game with wiz i must admit i was planing for a J3. I reacted to some moves of his. But i did so thinking that 1: it was unexpected, and with some of his moves there was some opportunistic moves i could make and 2) i had been pondering the idea for a while.
I was right that it was unexpected, but read more into the oppotunity of his position more than what was actually there. -
You weren’t lying. Your getting murdered in that game. His moves with China and Russia have just been so deft. Wow!
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TripleA Move Summary: Italians round 4
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Russia -
TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Russia Combat - Italians Italians creates battle in territory 97 Sea Zone Strategic bombing raid in Russia Russians roll AA dice in Russia : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Russia rolls: 5 and causes: 5 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Russia causes 5 damage total. Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from Russia to Western Ukraine 1 armour moved from Bulgaria to Eastern Poland Place Units - Italians 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians AA : -0.17 -
TripleA Move Summary: ANZAC round 4
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 10 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea 1 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea -
TripleA Turn Summary: ANZAC round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 10 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea 1 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea Combat - ANZAC Battle in Dutch New Guinea ANZAC attack with 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Dutch New Guinea ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Dutch New Guinea ANZAC win, taking Dutch New Guinea from Japanese with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 aaGun moved from Queensland to New South Wales 1 fighter moved from Queensland to New South Wales Place Units - ANZAC 3 infantry placed in New South Wales Turning on Edit Mode Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 9 PUs; end with 19 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 0.00 ANZAC regular : 0.33 -
TripleA Move Summary: French round 4
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 4 Politics - French Trigger French Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians Combat Move - French 1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Syria to 97 Sea Zone -
Again I forget about the scramble. I’ll redo the Frenchies.
Also, I tried to edit my ANZAC to move my transport and destroyer to NZ/SZ63, but couldn’t figure out how to do it.
Would you edit those two units please.
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 10 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea 1 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea Combat - ANZAC Battle in Dutch New Guinea ANZAC attack with 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Dutch New Guinea ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Dutch New Guinea ANZAC win, taking Dutch New Guinea from Japanese with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 aaGun moved from Queensland to New South Wales 1 fighter moved from Queensland to New South Wales Place Units - ANZAC 3 infantry placed in New South Wales Turning on Edit Mode Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 9 PUs; end with 19 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUs EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Politics - French Trigger French Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 1 fighter moved from Syria to Volgograd 1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Again, if you could edit my ANZAC tran and des to SZ63, that would be great.
On to the Germans
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TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 5
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 5 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 5 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 2 bombers moved from Poland to Holland Belgium 1 bomber moved from Poland to Archangel 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel -
TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 5 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 5 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 2 bombers moved from Poland to Holland Belgium 1 bomber moved from Poland to Archangel 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel Combat - Germans Germans creates battle in territory 125 Sea Zone Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 2 infantry Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 4.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 2 infantry owned by the Germans, 2 infantry owned by the Americans and 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Americans lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans win, taking 125 Sea Zone from Russians, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Americans with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Battle in Holland Belgium Germans attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the British, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Holland Belgium Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Archangel Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern Italy 2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 2 bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 2 bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Poland 1 bomber moved from Archangel to Poland 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Archangel 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 1 fighter and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 8 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Archangel 7 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland Place Units - Germans 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in France 1 bomber and 3 infantry placed in Western Germany 5 mech_infantrys placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 1.67 Russians regular : 0.67 Germans regular : 2.67 British regular : 0.33
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