That makes sense.
I just think this way because the first two times I played this game I found the Axis at a huge disadvantage with almost no plausible way to win.
Your play is making me rethink that.
Mainah (X) vs Wiz (L + 17) BM3
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 3 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Malta 1 marine moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 2 mech_infantrys moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 cruiser, 1 marine and 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 2 destroyers moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta 1 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 4 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta 1 artillery moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta 1 mech_infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Libya 1 mech_infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Libya 1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Libya 1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Libya 1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta 1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany 2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands Combat - Americans Strategic bombing raid in Western Germany Germans roll AA dice in Western Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Western Germany rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Western Germany causes 6 damage total. Battle in Caroline Islands Americans attack with 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield and 1 harbour 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Caroline Islands Americans win, taking Caroline Islands from Japanese with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun Battle in 96 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports Italians defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer Battle in Libya Battle in Malta Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 marine Italians defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 marine in Malta, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Malta, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Malta Americans win, taking Libya from Italians, taking Malta from Italians with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Western United States to Queensland 2 mech_infantrys moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 marine, 2 mech_infantrys, 4 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 2 mech_infantrys moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 2 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom Place Units - Americans 2 submarines placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 bomber placed in Eastern United States 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 60 PUs; end with 60 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 75 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 85 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 90 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow 1 fighter moved from Shensi to Kweichow Combat - Chinese Battle in Kweichow Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 6 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Shensi to Kansu 10 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan 1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Szechwan Place Units - Chinese 1 infantry placed in Shensi 1 infantry placed in Szechwan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Syria to 98 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece 2 marines moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone 2 cruisers and 2 marines moved from 81 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 99 Sea Zone to Crete 1 marine moved from 99 Sea Zone to Cyprus 1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa British take French Central Africa from Neutral_Axis 1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State UK_Pacific take Shan State from Japanese 2 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 artillery moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Burma to Yunnan Combat - British Battle in Greece Battle in Crete Battle in Cyprus Battle in Yunnan British attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan British win, taking Greece from Italians, taking Crete from Italians, taking Cyprus from Italians, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 mech_infantry moved from Burma to Szechwan 3 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 18 infantry moved from Burma to India 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to India 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Egypt to 99 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk 1 armour, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tobruk 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from French Equatorial Africa to Egypt 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 mech_infantry moved from Eire to United Kingdom Place Units - British 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 98 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Egypt Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Yunnan: 1 artillery EDIT: Adding units owned by British to India: 1 artillery EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 3 infantry placed in Iraq 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 42 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 45 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 48 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 3 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3,1,5,6,4 UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 6 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 9 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -2.50 Americans regular : 0.83 Japanese regular : -1.00 Italians regular : 0.33 Germans AA : -0.17 British regular : 1.50 -
@wizmark
Been meaning to ask: what is the advantage of activating ireland? I’ve seen it in a few games. -
@mainah It provides another landing spot for allied planes to retake london if it is needed. Just a belt and braces thing
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TripleA Move Summary: Italians round 5
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Greece 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy -
TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Greece 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy Combat - Italians Battle in 97 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 fighters in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 submarine in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone Italians win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Battle in Greece Italians attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Greece Italians win, taking Greece from British with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from Greece to Southern Italy 2 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 2 armour moved from Northern Italy to Bulgaria 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Bulgaria 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from France to Northern Italy Place Units - Italians 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy 2 mech_infantrys placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1,6,2,3,4,4 Italians collect 11 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 11 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0.83 British regular : -0.17 -
@mainah Just a little thing…as you had no destroyer in the battle in sz97 my sub should have had the option to submerge which I would have wanted it to do. I’ll edit it back in. It would have had a convoy roll as well but that would be too complicated to try to simulate.
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TripleA Turn Summary: ANZAC round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - ANZAC Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 97 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea ANZAC take Dutch New Guinea from Dutch 1 aaGun, 2 fighters and 1 infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland 3 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland Place Units - ANZAC 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone 1 artillery placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 20 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - ANZAC Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 97 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea ANZAC take Dutch New Guinea from Dutch 1 aaGun, 2 fighters and 1 infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland 3 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland Place Units - ANZAC 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone 1 artillery placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 20 PUs Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@wizmark
Very sorry.
I must of hit it the no to the submerge without really looking at it. -
I have seen the dice bot, but I forget how - so I had my son roll 2 dice - a 6 and a 3. I’ll edit out 3IPC’s from Italy’s income.
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@mainah Lol not a problem, but if you want to thats fine! :joy:
Allied subs in 97 are a major headache for axis…alll that rich territory being lost. 3 /4 subs in there will kill italy’s income…which is happening to me in game right now! :face_with_rolling_eyes:
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@wizmark
That’s why I sent the mosquito navy there.
Was in such deep shock at looking at the 500 allied ships in the med, I was just focused one one more turn of income. Didn’t give the whole submerge rule a 1/16 of a thought. -
@mainah haha I was chuckling to myself thinking what your reaction to the situation in the med would be after the allied turn :astonished: :astonished:
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@wizmark
I knew it was a possibility - but it looks SOOO much worse than I had thought. SOOO MUCCCHHH -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 6
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 9 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus 2 tactical_bombers moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Belarus 1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Germans take Vyborg from Russians 4 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom 2 fighters moved from Northern Italy to United KingdomCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 6
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 9 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus 2 tactical_bombers moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Belarus 1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Germans take Vyborg from Russians 4 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom 2 fighters moved from Northern Italy to United Kingdom -
@wizmark
I double posted in error - they are the exact same.
Scamble SBR in London? 2 Fig 4 Bom vs 1 French fighter. -
@mainah nope…you dont need to worry about asking in those situations… even if i did the bombers would still get through. Need a good AA roll now! :hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed:
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@wizmark
:face_with_rolling_eyes: not sure if you paying attention - but it doesn’t seem like you need anything right now!
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