L20 #1 Amon-Sul (X) vs farmboy (A+12) BM3

@farmboy said in L20 #1 Amon-Sul (X) vs farmboy (A+12) BM3:

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 Amon-Sul (X) vs farmboy (A+12) BM3:

maybe i ve let that russian beast become to obese xd

Your approach is a difficult one to respond too because of how much German pressure you put on the atlantic and med, as well as your willingness to gamble on riskier strafes or attacks, but the danger is that you don’t put enough pressure on Moscow. Lots of people play the Soviets assuming that they have to turtle without considering how the German builds might change the options that Moscow has. A more aggressive Moscow is (I hope) the right counter to your aproach.

yes, u ve put it well, when i saw u ve bought 9 art i wasnt happy, i like when people buy only inf with russia xd

well, axis are not my favs, i prefer allies and play them 80 % of time. i hope i ll find time to improve my axis strategy in the time to come :)

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 6

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 infantry moved from Iraq to Persia
              Italians take Persia from British

    Combat - Italians

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        2 aaGuns moved from Iraq to Persia
        1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia

    Place Units - Italians
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy
        1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 97 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs
        Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 21 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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@farmboy said in L20 #1 Amon-Sul (X) vs farmboy (A+12) BM3:

to be clear, what I mean to say is that this approach will be more challenging if your opponent can’t anticipate it.

yeah , but the question is what to change, that i need to think

@farmboy said in L20 #1 Amon-Sul (X) vs farmboy (A+12) BM3:

to be clear, what I mean to say is that this approach will be more challenging if your opponent can’t anticipate it.

yeah, but the question is, do u give up something good just in order to surprise ur opponent?

as far as i know most top players (which i am not) have more or less the same opening with axis, and especially with japan

@farmboy said in L20 #1 Amon-Sul (X) vs farmboy (A+12) BM3:

gy to counter I think, but one suggestion I would make is just

i think my strategy is good, but that i need better tactical playout.

my strategy comes from the fact that Russia cant effectively threaten Germany, since Germany plays before Russia, has more money, air, mech units.

Russia has only few art, mech units, air, its industries are far away from Berlin and its hard to defend them (especially both ukraine and novgorod).
Moscow which is a big one is veryy far way.

so germany controls russia, in the mean of not allowing it to progress into e europe, while efficiently slows down usa and uk, and gives japan a chance to victory, or if usa goes heavily to pacific then germany finishes the job

@farmboy said in L20 #1 Amon-Sul (X) vs farmboy (A+12) BM3:

to be clear, what I mean to say is that this approach will be more challenging if your opponent can’t anticipate it.

and in some ways i feel honoured. you looked my past games. i would expect it in a tourney game, but this is very high standard from U.

i should check the games of my opponent too, and learn from them to improve my play.

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 7

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 3 artilleries, 3 fighters and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
        1 fighter moved from Greece to Ukraine
        1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Iraq to 71 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Greece to Baltic States
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in 71 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 bomber
            British defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the British lost in 71 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for British: 1 transport
        Battle in Ukraine
            Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
            Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Western Ukraine
            Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
            Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
        Battle in 113 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
            Russians defend with 1 cruiser
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 113 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser
        Battle in Baltic States
            Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
            Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Western Germany
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Western Germany
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Iraq to 97 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Greece
        1 carrier and 3 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Western Germany to Germany
        1 bomber moved from 71 Sea Zone to Tanganyika Territory
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
        3 artilleries moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        8 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
        9 armour moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 aaGun moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 aaGun moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
        1 aaGun moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        7 artilleries moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine

    Place Units - Germans
        1 infantry placed in France
        3 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Germany
        3 fighters placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs
        Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 47 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 4.00
Russians : 0.83

Savegame

@farmboy said in L20 #1 Amon-Sul (X) vs farmboy (A+12) BM3:

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 Amon-Sul (X) vs farmboy (A+12) BM3:

@farmboy said in L20 #1 Amon-Sul (X) vs farmboy (A+12) BM3:

gy to counter I think, but one suggestion I would make is just

i think my strategy is good, but that i need better tactical playout.

I think it is a very good one as well. And it is also distinct from other strategies I’ve played against which also makes it more difficult. But because you also stick to the J3, and focus less on Moscow I can anticipate that and make choices in my bid and in the first couple of turns that will improve my chances against that. If I had seen you use J1 or J2 DOW in one of your games than some of my moves would have changed.

Certainly a G3 and J3 attack are pretty common. But J1 is as well and I still see J2 and G2 from some of the top players here. If you check out Adam or AD or JDOWs choices you will see some other interesting Axis strategies.

I don’t think I am a strong axis player but I was using a G3/J3 approach for a while, and I’ve recently been adding in a J1 both to experiment but also to reduce what my opponents can anticipate.

yeah, i understand what u want to say. its one thing doing j3 often, the other thing is doing it all the time.

i see. thanks for the tip

@farmboy said in L20 #1 Amon-Sul (X) vs farmboy (A+12) BM3:

did you intend to leave a German fighter in Greece?

yes

sorry i was busy

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 7 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 5 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Kansu to Novosibirsk
              Japanese take Novosibirsk from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Kansu to Timguska
              Japanese take Timguska from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Shensi to Tsinghai
              Japanese take Tsinghai from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
        1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 18 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Burma
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 18 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Korea
        Battle in 22 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 22 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 22 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 22 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 22 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Korea from Russians with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Burma
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Burma, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Burma
            Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in 18 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 18 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 18 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 18 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 18 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 battleship, 3 carriers, 5 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 18 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 22 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from French Indo China to 6 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Philippines to 6 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
        3 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to French Indo China
        1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 75 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
        1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Shantung
        1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Anhwe
        1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Hopei
        1 infantry moved from Hopei to Chahar
        1 aaGun moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
        1 aaGun moved from Sikang to Shensi
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State
        1 bomber moved from Burma to French Indo China
        1 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to French Indo China
        1 battleship and 2 carriers moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
        1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
        1 artillery moved from Szechwan to Shensi

    Place Units - Japanese
        2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Kwangtung
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China
        3 infantry placed in Malaya
        1 destroyer and 5 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 61 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans : 0.33
UK_Pacific : 0.33
Japanese : -1.67

Savegame

wait a bit more till i check my move if its all clear for usa to go