L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs JDOW (A+12) BM3

I cannot follow. What did your subs do?

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History
Round: 6
Purchase Units - Italians
Italians buy 1 carrier and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Combat Move - Italians
        2 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
        1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Morocco
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Gold Coast to French West Africa
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        1 armour moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
              Italians take Western Ukraine from Russians
        1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
        2 fighters moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Rostov
        1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Rostov

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Morocco
            Italians attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 marine
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 marine in Morocco, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 marine owned by the Americans lost in Morocco
            Italians win, taking Morocco from Americans with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for Americans: 1 marine
        Battle in Rostov
            Italians attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Rostov, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3,17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
            Italians win, taking Rostov from Russians with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in French West Africa
            Italians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in French West Africa, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in French West Africa, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in French West Africa
            Italians win, taking French West Africa from British with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Rostov to 97 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Rostov to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from Morocco to Southern France
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Ukraine
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Southern Italy
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria

    Place Units - Italians
        1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 97 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 21 PUs; end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0,33
Italians regular : 0,17
Russians regular : -0,33
British regular : 0,67

Savegame

I still don’t get it.
Yes, your subs were crazy heroes in UK4 which entirely messed up the position in Europe but in the last US/UK turn none of your subs did score a hit.
Did you confuse the sub with the destroyer?

@JDOW said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs JDOW (A+12) BM3:

Yes, your subs were crazy heroes in UK4 which

I mean UK1

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 6

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 2 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from New South Wales to Queensland
        1 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
        1 destroyer moved from 63 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Queensland to New Zealand
        1 fighter moved from Syria to Egypt

    Place Units - ANZAC
        2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 18 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 21 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 7

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History
Round: 7
Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 airfield, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
              Germans take Volgograd from Russians
        1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
              Germans take Caucasus from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda
        1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Vologda
        1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Urals
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Nenetsia to Urals
        1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Urals
        1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Vologda
        1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Smolensk
        1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
              Germans take 109 Sea Zone from Americans
        3 carriers moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Eire
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Scotland
        1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Urals
        1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

Scramble 91 please, 2 brits and the frenchie.

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History
Round: 7
Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 airfield, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
              Germans take Volgograd from Russians
        1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
              Germans take Caucasus from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda
        1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Vologda
        1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Urals
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Nenetsia to Urals
        1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Urals
        1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Vologda
        1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Smolensk
        1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
              Germans take 109 Sea Zone from Americans
        3 carriers moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Eire
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Scotland
        1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Urals
        1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Americans scrambles 3 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 91 Sea Zone
        Battle in Scotland
        Battle in Eire
        Battle in 91 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 2 fighters; French defend with 1 fighter; Americans defend with 1 cruiser and 2 transports
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Americans lost in 91 Sea Zone
                Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2,83 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 3 fighters in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the Americans, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans, 1 fighter owned by the French and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in 91 Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 91 Sea Zone
            Germans win, taking Scotland from British, taking Eire from Neutral_Allies with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 45
            Casualties for Americans: 1 cruiser and 2 transports
            Casualties for Germans: 1 tactical_bomber
            Casualties for British: 2 fighters
            Casualties for French: 1 fighter
        Battle in Urals
            Germans attack with 1 armour, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Urals, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Urals, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Urals
            Germans win, taking Urals from Russians with 1 armour, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Smolensk
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk
            Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Vologda
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vologda
            Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Bessarabia
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        2 artilleries moved from Novgorod to Archangel
        2 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Archangel
        3 fighters moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
        1 bomber moved from Smolensk to Yugoslavia
        1 artillery moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
        1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 aaGun moved from France to Southern France
        1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Greater Southern Germany
        1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 infantry moved from France to Southern France
        1 bomber moved from Vologda to Ukraine
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Ukraine
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia
        2 submarines moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Germans
        1 airfield placed in Yugoslavia
        2 submarines placed in 110 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries placed in Ukraine
        3 infantry placed in Novgorod
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 60 PUs; end with 60 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 80 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -1,00
Russians regular : 1,00
Germans regular : 2,67

Savegame

What a disaster in 91, that was the final blow.

But not that it matters too much. The game was close to over before that. But with 2 German planes less on the board there would be a bit more to fight for.

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians repair damage of 5x factory_major; Remaining resources: 28 PUs; 
        Russians buy 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        2 infantry moved from Sakha to Amur
        1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Tambov to Volgograd
        1 artillery moved from Tambov to Volgograd
        1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Rostov
        2 fighters moved from Russia to Rostov
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Vologda
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Volgograd
            Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
            Russians win, taking Volgograd from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
        Battle in Caucasus
            Russians attack with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
            Russians win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
        Battle in Vologda
            Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vologda
            Russians win, taking Vologda from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Smolensk
            Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk
            Russians win, taking Smolensk from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Rostov
            Russians attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            Italians defend with 2 mech_infantrys
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Rostov, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Italians lost in Rostov
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 fighters in Rostov, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 fighters in Rostov, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Italians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
            Russians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 2 mech_infantrys
        Battle in Amur
            Russians attack with 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Amur, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Amur, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Amur
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Amur, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Amur, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
            1 infantry owned by the Russians retreated to Sakha
            Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        2 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
        1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
        1 artillery moved from Samara to Tambov
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Samara
        1 armour moved from Russia to Samara
        1 aaGun moved from Tambov to Samara
        1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Russia
        1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Russia
        1 fighter moved from Vologda to Russia
        2 fighters moved from Rostov to Russia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Tambov
        1 armour moved from Russia to Tambov
        1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Tambov
        1 artillery and 26 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        1 armour moved from Bryansk to Russia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia
        8 artilleries moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        9 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia

    Place Units - Russians
        1 artillery, 4 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 22 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 24 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit bombing damage for these Russians owned units to: factory_major = 2
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Russia: 2 mech_infantrys
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0,33
Italians regular : 0,67
Germans regular : -0,33
Russians regular : -0,50

Savegame

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs JDOW (A+12) BM3:

Axis does have a severe edge now. Japan will completely explode and Germany is pretty strong, despite being at a halt in Ukraine.

Yep, as I announced this was an uphill battle after UK1. The avalanche of events caused by that move was huge. It led me to the ill-advised decision to move me UK fleet to 98 while it should have stayed in 91. I cannot emphasize how big the loss of the bomber was and the free ships you got after the UK1.
With the bomber in gib I can trade at AES efficiently with 2 ground and 2 air against 3 ground and I have another units in Egypt. This way I can hold Egypt and keep my UK fleet available to merge with the US fleet when the time comes and not lose gib.
Also, you would not have had Vichy for free and may have lost an Italian plane and had a tank out of position.

Anyway, that does not mean that you did not play very well until here and I would have had the upper hand for sure if UK1 wouldn’t have happened.
But I am constantly preaching that early dice matter the most and that that UK1 turned +12 into -30 or so.

I will let you have some fun for some turns pounding me but I consider Axis winning changes from here 95% plus.

changes = chances

And for the record, it is not Japan what worries be but Germany. Japan can be dealt with but at this stage, the Allies need to have some counterplay established in Europe. They entirely failed to do so and that’s why the Germans will win the game sooner or later.