Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France 1 artillery moved from Western Germany to France 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to France 2 artilleries moved from Holland Belgium to France 2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France 3 armour moved from Holland Belgium to France 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France 1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia 1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia Combat - Germans British scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone Battle in 111 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 1 bomber owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans retreated 1 battleship owned by the Germans and 2 submarines owned by the Germans retreated to 112 Sea Zone British win with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Yugoslavia Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 2 armour, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry Battle in 110 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters; French defend with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 42 Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters Casualties for French: 1 cruiser and 1 fighter Battle in France Germans attack with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 1 artillery and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22 Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery Battle in 106 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French Non Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany 2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis 1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 2 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Poland 1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 artillery moved from Greater Southern Germany to Western Germany 1 artillery moved from Greater Southern Germany to Germany Place Units - Germans 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 39 PUs; end with 58 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUsL20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
te some allied strategies, improve them , and if i can put a good resistance to top players, i ll continue playing this game, if not i ll take a break and wait for the bids to grow
i need to check some of the top players games, and implement something from their top moves into my play
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I think your special opening of contesting Yunnan and pushing lots of russian force east would be pretty stable with that huge a bid.
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
te some allied strategies, improve them , and if i can put a good resistance to top players, i ll continue playing this game, if not i ll take a break and wait for the bids to grow
i need to check some of the top players games, and implement something from their top moves into my play
That’s a very good strategy for improvement. Well worth the time invested.
I checked out A-D vs JDOW A-semi. Perhaps 10 min. Learned a lot! Also when looking at A-D’s play against you gave me some worthy revelations. Maybe 5 min used there. Extremely efficient way to improve.
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i ve lost only one game with axis ,and that was against adam. and he is n1 without contest in this league, so its not a measure
axis have 2:1 rating in this league season, all though the allies have a bid of 10-20, now going to 20+
and karl and some other exp dudes are just writing what i ve been writing all along
the axis are overpowered
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@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
I think your special opening of contesting Yunnan and pushing lots of russian force east would be pretty stable with that huge a bid.
yes, ur improved axis showed germany can be efficient in the east and still defend europe with bunch of carriers
even AD mentioned u in some thread xd
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
i am slightly loosing motivation to play a and a
the axis are owerpowered, and nobody will give me 40 or 50 bid with alllies
i like allies, dont like to play much with axis, but if i want to keep winning i need to play the axis
and that sucks from my point of view
The great part of your opening strategy is that it’s very unconventional and fresh, but, like I stated before, it’s not very solid against prime opposition.
My suggestion is that you keep it for special occasions and go on a more traditional route as main weapon. Perhaps less fun in a way, but you’ll get quite a higher chance of kicking butt with Allies with say a 20-bid. Like in our game. Despite 19 for Allies, which I consider a big bid, J managed to control the situation around Yunnan, which was key in this game.
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yes ,i ll definitely try one game with a russia that doesnt go heavily against japan rd1
it will be fun for me since i dont play that way
i ve learned someting though
farmboy and adam use the 20 units amur stack to attack korea and manchuria even without usa going in there first. and they are top class players so
definitely worth a thinking , to find other ways to pressure japan
also my midway strategy is good but i musnt be focused on midway only, but also going south to australia or something
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
I think your special opening of contesting Yunnan and pushing lots of russian force east would be pretty stable with that huge a bid.
yes, ur improved axis showed germany can be efficient in the east and still defend europe with bunch of carriers
even AD mentioned u in some thread xd
Before Germany can start to defend the west front, primarily through fleet, they need to get their income pushed up by making progress in Russia. Without that success, the west front will inevitable fail as well.
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@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
I think your special opening of contesting Yunnan and pushing lots of russian force east would be pretty stable with that huge a bid.
yes, ur improved axis showed germany can be efficient in the east and still defend europe with bunch of carriers
even AD mentioned u in some thread xd
Before Germany can start to defend the west front, primarily through fleet, they need to get their income pushed up by making progress in Russia. Without that success, the west front will inevitable fail as well.
interesting thought
i have some new ideas for allies, that i will try to implement in my future games
unfortunately i can not play against u anymore, since we ve played 5 games already, and i dont have 20 games finished
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i am also open to tech since it brings more fun into the game
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
farmboy and adam use the 20 units amur stack to attack korea and manchuria even without usa going in there first. and they are top class players so
Might be good, but I’m not sure. It doesn’t pose too big of a problem for J, while it makes J pretty happy that they don’t have to DOW on Russia.
Still, when the big guns do that move, it really can’t be bad. :)
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yeah, i like some of my allied moves, especially destroying and convoying italy,
but as ksmkcay said well , i should focus more on germany with uk and usa , and not italy , if i go heavily to yunan
he praised my strategy but said i need to send less units there
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adam and farmboy have this great move with uk on rd 1
gibraltar AB , and stacking sz 92 -
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
i am also open to tech since it brings more fun into the game
I’ll try and present a fun system for tech. Not sure when that will happen and would also need a bit of impementation from the developers.
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but i have to be realistic, i was tier 1 last time, few years ago, i came back and now i am tier E, and i have a lot of places to improve my (game)play so i am not discontent, just i need to take a little break, and more medidating strategies and take fewer games, to be able to put my performances on a greater scale.
i play tier M and E guys only lately, so i have to do my best to put a better resistance
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
adam and farmboy have this great move with uk on rd 1
gibraltar AB , and stacking sz 92Like I said, it’s one of the classic opening moves, abstaining Taranto, but stacking fleet in z92. It’s strong.
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@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
i am also open to tech since it brings more fun into the game
I’ll try and present a fun system for tech. Not sure when that will happen and would also need a bit of impementation from the developers.
it would be great we have it in bm4
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@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
adam and farmboy have this great move with uk on rd 1
gibraltar AB , and stacking sz 92Like I said, it’s one of the classic opening moves, abstaining Taranto, but stacking fleet in z92. It’s strong.
u think that early sea lion is a trap, ksmkcay thinks going for taranto is a trap
interesting thoughts
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
adam and farmboy have this great move with uk on rd 1
gibraltar AB , and stacking sz 92Like I said, it’s one of the classic opening moves, abstaining Taranto, but stacking fleet in z92. It’s strong.
u think that early sea lion is a trap, ksmkcay thinks going for taranto is a trap
interesting thoughts
Hehe, I think Taranto is strong as well.
Early Sea Lion is definitely crap. Trap-crap. :grin:
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i am keen to bm3, and i would like to see some improvements in bm4
as for PTV, i would rather wait to see in which direction it will go, and i have an impresion that PTV games will last much longer then BM do.
maybe i am wrong, but thats my first impression.