I discarded the plan of stacking Leningrad. It’s worth nothing if Moscow falls.
Have more or less decided on the second plan. I very much want to roll, but will try and wait a while for input.
Btw, another decent option for purchase is 9 inf, 1 art, 1 fig, only putting 1 inf in Stalingrad.
I do like the 11 inf, 2 art better though.
I will also use 1 inf from Novosibirsk into Kansu, in case there’s need for a retreat.
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@AndrewAAGamer Out of curiosity, why so many artillery to Western Ukraine? Not sure it really matters, but also leaves a decently valuable target somewhat exposed. Unless of course that is the point? :)
Good question. If I want to get those artillery into Bryansk next Turn I have to move them into Western Ukraine this Turn. Any hope of taking Brynsk and thereafter turtling Russia next Turn requires I get those 6 artillery into position to attack first. This does leave open the possibility of a strafe of Western Ukraine to kill as many of those artillery for infantry as possible. This is where the 3 German fighters really are going to be missed on the Brynsk attack on G5.
Russia will not be able to take Western Ukraine and hold Bryansk. Therefore, they will want to strafe and hold. However unless it is a perfect strafe Germany should have a 95+ battle on Brynsk. I am assuming that Russia will not want to give Germany those kind of odds. I may be wrong.
You are right.
Time to execute the turn then.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0
Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 2 artilleries and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Politics - Russians
Trigger Russians Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians
Combat Move - Russians
2 infantry moved from Olgiy to Kansu
1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Chahar
Chinese take Chahar from Japanese
2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Karelia to Belarus
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Belarus
1 infantry moved from Timguska to Kansu
Combat - Russians
Battle in Belarus
Russians attack with 2 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
AA fire in Belarus : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 1,67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians, 1 aaGun owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
Russians win, taking Belarus from Germans with 1 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
Battle in Kansu
Russians attack with 3 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 infantry
Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kansu
Russians win, taking Kansu from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Trigger Russians Conquer Japanese Territory By Mongolia: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Mongolia_May_Change_To_Russians_Control_Switch attached to Russians
Non Combat Move - Russians
5 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
1 fighter moved from Belarus to Russia
1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Russia
1 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
3 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Vologda
10 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Tambov
2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Russia
10 infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia
3 artilleries and 24 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Olgiy
1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Central Mongolia
1 infantry moved from Ulaanbaatar to Central Mongolia
1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Egypt
Place Units - Russians
2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Russia
3 infantry placed in Volgograd
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs
Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans : 1,00
Russians : 2,83
Japanese : -0,33
AA fire in Belarus : : 0,67
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0
Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 2 artilleries and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Politics - Russians
Trigger Russians Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians
Combat Move - Russians
2 infantry moved from Olgiy to Kansu
1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Chahar
Chinese take Chahar from Japanese
2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Karelia to Belarus
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Belarus
1 infantry moved from Timguska to Kansu
Combat - Russians
Battle in Belarus
Russians attack with 2 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
AA fire in Belarus : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 1,67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians, 1 aaGun owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
Russians win, taking Belarus from Germans with 1 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
Battle in Kansu
Russians attack with 3 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 infantry
Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kansu
Russians win, taking Kansu from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Trigger Russians Conquer Japanese Territory By Mongolia: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Mongolia_May_Change_To_Russians_Control_Switch attached to Russians
Non Combat Move - Russians
5 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
1 fighter moved from Belarus to Russia
1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Russia
1 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
3 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Vologda
10 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Tambov
2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Russia
10 infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia
3 artilleries and 24 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Olgiy
1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Central Mongolia
1 infantry moved from Ulaanbaatar to Central Mongolia
1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Egypt
Place Units - Russians
2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Russia
3 infantry placed in Volgograd
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs
Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from 110 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to 112 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans : 1,00
Russians : 2,83
Japanese : -0,33
AA fire in Belarus : : 0,67
Changed the sub to z112. Thinking that if G attacks the fleet with plenty of air, by building 3 ac’s (crazy, I know) the sub can take an eventual hit from the german sub. There’s only a slight advantage for the allied fleet in the case of an all-out german air-strike. But it should hold.
Not much else to do here, so consider Russia’s turn finalized.
Not quite finalized.
Have to evaluate putting a blocker in Bryansk against the italian 2 tank, 1 sb. Only worth it if Russia is able to threaten the stack, otherwise not worth it.
Not worth it.
Finalized.
Are you going to drive the Russian truck down to Ethiopia? @trulpen
Or i guess to egypt this turn
It should be in Cairo now. Yes, it’s heading for Ethiopia.
I would have recommended not risking the air on Belarus. You need that tac more than he needed the land units. And I should have suggested that instead of Belarus, you hit Baltic States. It is almost the same impact on him, but you could use the air safely.
Because of the loss of the tac, and because you didn’t build mechs, you may need to have more air that can reach Moscow on the subsequent allied turn than otherwise.
A landing in Norway with all 14 land units that can reach is pretty safe. For him to now seriously threaten the US in Norway, he will need to pull fast movers around from the attack on Moscow.
Yeah, and we’ll shuttle figs from Norway pretty soon.
The reason I hit Belarus is that those units were one step closer to Moscow, but I agree that the Baltic had been better. Pretty low risk though, but risk it was and has to be paid for accordingly.
While I think I’m leaning towards Norway over Normandy, it is worth considering both. Norway is more of a hit on German income and gives you a more direct route to send air to Moscow. But you will likely still be in a position to take it in a turn or two. If you don’t take it now, he may be able hold it for at least a turn by moving German air to stack it. But that will be hard for him to sustain and not a place that he would want his air to stay in any case.
the advantage of Normandy is that you get a factory sooner and your fleet still can reach the Med in one turn. And you can fairly safely split it so that some move into 92 and some protect the transports in 110.
Both give you a chance to threaten Germany now but the latter does allow you to also put more pressure on Italy as well.
Depending on what Japan does, your UK fleet can return to 98 to threaten Italy as well.
I think the air route, and hit on German income is probably more important, but I think both are worth thinking about.
I’m all for Norway first. Its a big IPC hit on Germany that can add up the longer you have it. Take Norway, secure it and then put all focus into Normandy and the Med.
My only difference is as @farmboy suggested an attack on Baltic States would have been preferred over Belarus.
