Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB

farmboy · Jun 25, 2020, 12:43 AM

@Saber25 I haven’t updated yet so not too sure but I expect on triplea you can still access the previous releases and I have seen others post that as long as you install it in a different folder you can use both versions.

surfer · Jun 25, 2020, 1:08 AM

@Saber25 Yes, I recently updated, and I have to keep the old version in order to play my existing games. New version is cool, and the developers are quick to fix the minor items that pop up. So its good to upgrade, but yes you have to have the old version too.

trulpen · Jun 25, 2020, 6:20 AM

@Saber25 said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

Perhaps a dumb question inbound on my end. Just updated Triple A and now cannot load this game. Is there a way to get the old version back as my default?

There is. Just download the 1.9.19993 installer and install in a different directory.

trulpen · Jun 25, 2020, 6:23 AM

@trulpen said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

@Saber25 said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

Perhaps a dumb question inbound on my end. Just updated Triple A and now cannot load this game. Is there a way to get the old version back as my default?

There is. Just download the 1.9.19993 installer and install in a different directory.

Mixed things up. It’s 1.9.0.0.13066.

AndrewAAGamer · Jun 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

Germany 4: Is my capital safe? Yes, there is no 1-2 punch available because the UK does not have a transport in position.

Time to push into Russia more. Need to take Ukraine safely and protect Finland. Unfortunately, I forgot I was going to move 3 Italian fighters to Finland to defend there on IT3. Now I must send German ones which means Bryansk will a be a much tougher nut to crack. I do so dislike making mistakes.

Fast movers I buy this Turn can still make Moscow by Turn 7 so that makes buying simple.

AndrewAAGamer · Jun 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 4

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 armour and 10 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
        1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Baltic States
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
              Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
        5 artilleries and 27 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
              Germans take Ukraine from Russians
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
        5 artilleries moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Belarus
        2 bombers moved from Southern Italy to Baltic States

    Combat - Germans
        Germans creates battle in territory 125 Sea Zone
        Battle in Belarus
            Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
            Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
        Battle in Baltic States
            Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
            Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 2 bombers, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        12 armour and 10 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
        5 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Bessarabia
        4 armour and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
        2 bombers moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
        4 aaGuns and 2 artilleries moved from France to Western Germany
        3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Finland
        1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland
        1 fighter and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to Eastern Poland
        1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
        1 aaGun moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine

    Place Units - Germans
        1 armour and 9 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,2
        Germans collect 43 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 44 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 0.17
Russians : -1.33

Savegame

Saber25 · Jun 25, 2020, 11:23 PM

@AndrewAAGamer Out of curiosity, why so many artillery to Western Ukraine? Not sure it really matters, but also leaves a decently valuable target somewhat exposed. Unless of course that is the point? :)

AndrewAAGamer · Jun 25, 2020, 11:50 PM

@Saber25 said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

@AndrewAAGamer Out of curiosity, why so many artillery to Western Ukraine? Not sure it really matters, but also leaves a decently valuable target somewhat exposed. Unless of course that is the point? :)

Good question. If I want to get those artillery into Bryansk next Turn I have to move them into Western Ukraine this Turn. Any hope of taking Brynsk and thereafter turtling Russia next Turn requires I get those 6 artillery into position to attack first. This does leave open the possibility of a strafe of Western Ukraine to kill as many of those artillery for infantry as possible. This is where the 3 German fighters really are going to be missed on the Brynsk attack on G5.

Russia will not be able to take Western Ukraine and hold Bryansk. Therefore, they will want to strafe and hold. However unless it is a perfect strafe Germany should have a 95+ battle on Brynsk. I am assuming that Russia will not want to give Germany those kind of odds. I may be wrong.

farmboy · Jun 26, 2020, 5:26 AM

Thinking ahead to the US/UK turn, you have a lot of options for landings, and these might shape your Soviet turn. I’m definitely leaning towards taking Norway because of its impact on Germany’s income and with an airbase there you can send air into Moscow. This might mean some of the UK air in Karelia come back to defend Norway or the fleet, although that shouldn’t be necessary.

And I would want to be sure I have enough US/UK fighters in range of Moscow on the following turn. It looks to me that around 6 or so keeps the German odds to around 50-60%, if the Soviets don’t lose any more units that can reach Moscow safely but I would double check that.

For the Soviets you obviously want to retreat, but if I can I would try to split the stack between Tambov and Moscow so that he has a hard time grabbing and holding volgograd. Not sure if you would have the odds given the German fast movers, but I think you can just set up safely with some of the UK air landing in Moscow.

You also want to have enough allied fighters in Moscow to discourage a strat bombing.

And you might want to use the Soviet tanks and mech in Karelia to hit Belarus. They are not likely to make it back to Moscow in time and there you can at least try to trade them against German units that can reach.

And although I think you want to bring the 6 inf nearest to Moscow back, at least some of the remaining soviet units in the East should put some pressure on Japan.

trulpen · Jun 26, 2020, 8:26 AM

I’m thinking of hitting Finland actually, to help the Allied landing in Norway. Don’t want G to be able to take it back easily. If it goes well, it will even be conquered. If it fails, there’s the retreat to Karelia. Displaces the russian air for a turn, but that should free up some of the allied fighters in Karelia to drop down to Moscow.

trulpen · Jun 26, 2020, 8:27 AM

The other option is of course the defensive one, retreating with the 3 Leningrad-mechs to reach Moscow and attacking Belarus with 2 mech, 1 tank, which will be slaughtered. Question is if it’s worth it to risk air there?

trulpen · Jun 26, 2020, 8:29 AM

Purchase 11 inf, 2 art for Moscow and Stalingrad.

A third option is to hit Baltic and Belarus and stack in Leningrad.

trulpen · Jun 26, 2020, 8:31 AM

If going for the third option, the purchase will be 13 inf, saving 2 IPC.

trulpenplay · Jun 26, 2020, 9:05 AM

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 4

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 2 artilleries and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Russians
        Trigger Russians Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Finland
        1 armour moved from Karelia to Vyborg
              Russians take Vyborg from Germans
        1 armour moved from Vyborg to Finland
        1 armour moved from Karelia to Finland
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Finland
        2 infantry moved from Olgiy to Kansu
        1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Chahar
              Chinese take Chahar from Japanese

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

trulpen · Jun 26, 2020, 9:06 AM

Maybe 2 mech instead of art in Stalingrad, to reach Moscow immediately?

trulpen · Jun 26, 2020, 9:08 AM

I’m also leaning to change the attack to Belarus, with the 2 mech, 1 tank. Maybe 1 fig, 1 tac as well.

trulpen · Jun 26, 2020, 9:10 AM

@trulpen said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

Maybe 2 mech instead of art in Stalingrad, to reach Moscow immediately?

On the other hand, if a blocker in Rostov is skipped, needs to be pretty heavy to hold against 1 tank, 3 fig, 1 sb, then 3 inf is better. If G hits it, it has to be with some force, which can then be wiped out.

trulpen · Jun 26, 2020, 9:11 AM

Would need 6 inf, 1 aa for Rostov. Don’t think we can afford that.

trulpenplay · Jun 26, 2020, 9:16 AM

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 4

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 2 artilleries and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Russians
        Trigger Russians Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians

    Combat Move - Russians
        2 infantry moved from Olgiy to Kansu
        1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Chahar
              Chinese take Chahar from Japanese
        2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Karelia to Belarus
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Belarus

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

trulpen · Jun 26, 2020, 9:21 AM

The other take of hitting Belarus.

I’m ok with risking the air. 33 % risk it hits one and then the tac goes. Without the air, the mech and tank are wasted. Will only make a dent in the german scouting-party.

G can then hit Norway with 6 inf, 3 fig, 2 sb, but likely the air will go towards Moscow instead. Norway is the naturally best landing-spot for US. Definitely want to go there! With only 1 sub and little air around, there’s no need to grab Denmark, so everything may enter Norway. UK has 1 fig to spare which can further help out.

I’d like to move all 6 figs from Karelia to Moscow mainly to deter SBR.

Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 4

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 4

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