Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB

trulpen · Jun 16, 2020, 2:46 PM

What I could see no other air than the bombers may land on an island. Doesn’t that limit the attack to max 10 air only?

farmboy · Jun 16, 2020, 2:53 PM

@trulpen 2 bombers + 10 air (5 of which can be tacs). With that I get 75% odds.

farmboy · Jun 16, 2020, 2:56 PM

4 tacs from FIC can land in 33. 5 fig + 1 tac can land on the 3 carriers that can’t reach but can move to an adjacent square.

trulpen · Jun 16, 2020, 2:58 PM

I have to look at the map, but I don’t remember J having an ab in FIC. I’ll check. I’m sure you’re right and I’m wrong. In that case the fig definitely goes to the Carolines.

farmboy · Jun 16, 2020, 3:01 PM

@trulpen no need for an airbase in FIC. The tacs can land on the carriers coming from 6 and the the fighters in 6 and on Japan have one extra movement so can land in carriers adjacent to 33.

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 16, 2020, 3:16 PM

I skipped ahead to Japan turn and he can get 5 tacs + 5 fighters + 2 bombers to the Sea Zone. That gives him a 75% chance of winning but messes up his plans for Asia. I would be happy if he did that battle since India would live a long life.

have the fighter in Queensland. You will be thrilled if he decided to attack there. He is not doing an amphibious attack in Southern Territories on J2.
choose a mech instead of the infantry. It gives you so much more flexibility to repel amphibious attacks later in the game. worth the extra 1 PU
don’t worry about him sending a big force to Sydney just to kill one destroyer. no problem about this build but you are being too afraid in this match.

farmboy · Jun 16, 2020, 3:54 PM

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

I skipped ahead to Japan turn and he can get 5 tacs + 5 fighters + 2 bombers to the Sea Zone. That gives him a 75% chance of winning but messes up his plans for Asia. I would be happy if he did that battle since India would live a long life.

have the fighter in Queensland. You will be thrilled if he decided to attack there. He is not doing an amphibious attack in Southern Territories on J2.

choose a mech instead of the infantry. It gives you so much more flexibility to repel amphibious attacks later in the game. worth the extra 1 PU

don’t worry about him sending a big force to Sydney just to kill one destroyer. no problem about this build but you are being too afraid in this match.

I agree with that. I wouldn’t gamble on 75% odds when my situation is not desperate and it seems like my route to victory is elsewhere. But I also would think carefully about what might happen in a circumstance where your opponent would go for it. I expect that they would quickly get bogged down in the pacific. They should be able to grab Sydney but not Honolulu and Calcutta would then be safe for a while. And China would soon be in a position to deny Japan a VC on the mainland. But given where the rest of the US fleet is, there is some danger that the right build, a decisive defeat in 33 (which is also reasonably possible), a landing in Western Australia, and carrier movement to 46 might put Japan on track to grab 2 more VCs before the US can respond effectively. If the Axis were desperate in Europe, than I would seriously be thinking about this. I doubt Andrew would since I think he has a safer route to victory in Europe, but some players like to gamble.

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 16, 2020, 4:19 PM

@farmboy I see two primary goals for Japan in the early and mid-game.

don’t lose the air force since it allows them to project power in multiple directions
get the income up to the 70+ range.

Since he has mostly abandoned attempts to conquer China, he will be stuck at about 60 PU/turn until he either conquers India or Australia. I would be thrilled if he engages all of his forces in Pacific naval battles. A game of attrition without conquering valuable territories is his worst nightmare.

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 16, 2020, 4:21 PM

@AndrewAAGamer would you be able to give a critique of what was done well on US/China/UK turns, along with what you would have done differently in this situation?

trulpen · Jun 16, 2020, 5:18 PM

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

I skipped ahead to Japan turn and he can get 5 tacs + 5 fighters + 2 bombers to the Sea Zone. That gives him a 75% chance of winning but messes up his plans for Asia. I would be happy if he did that battle since India would live a long life.

have the fighter in Queensland. You will be thrilled if he decided to attack there. He is not doing an amphibious attack in Southern Territories on J2.

choose a mech instead of the infantry. It gives you so much more flexibility to repel amphibious attacks later in the game. worth the extra 1 PU

don’t worry about him sending a big force to Sydney just to kill one destroyer. no problem about this build but you are being too afraid in this match.

It’s @farmboy saw this and that you checked. It’s a big help for me.

Might go for the des then.

I’m not afraid, hmpf, but I’m trying to be careful. Don’t want to put resources to waste.

I’ll land the fig in the Carolines, because I prefer that J doesn’t have better than 50/50-odds on the attack.

WindowWasher · Jun 16, 2020, 5:29 PM

finishing the second round… 534-535 posts. Damn

trulpen · Jun 16, 2020, 5:31 PM

@WindowWasher said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

finishing the second round… 534-535 posts. Damn

Heading for the All-Time-High!

trulpenplay · Jun 16, 2020, 7:18 PM

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        EDIT: 1 bomber moved from Iceland to United Kingdom

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
        1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from Queensland to Caroline Islands
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia
        1 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 62 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 15 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        1 infantry moved from French Central Africa to French Equatorial Africa
        1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

trulpen · Jun 16, 2020, 7:22 PM

Ok, this is the turn then. It’s finalized by this post. Have taken input into account. N.B. that there’s an edit of the UK-sb that should’ve moved back to London instead of staying on vacation on Iceland. If it’s not approved, it will be changed back.

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 16, 2020, 8:03 PM

Now onto G3. Let the attacks finally begin.

Curious Andrew, how well does this ignore-China plan work in Balanced Mod?

WindowWasher · Jun 16, 2020, 8:23 PM

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris probably better than in OOB due to the fact that china’s bonus is cut by 3 and in BM Japan has to garrison everything

trulpen · Jun 16, 2020, 8:27 PM

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

Now onto G3. Let the attacks finally begin.

Curious Andrew, how well does this ignore-China plan work in Balanced Mod?

He doesn’t really play BM3, so the question is unfair. Think he’s tried it or in the process of trying it, but it’s a lot to adjust to.

It might actually be stronger in BM3. No need to keep any guerilla down. On the other hand J sorely misses the income-boost that China provides.

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 16, 2020, 9:15 PM

@trulpen yeah, BM is much tougher for the Japanese in China. I waste way too many men trying to suppress the rebellions. I hate it when an American bomber knocks off the lone defender and a Chinese soldier pops up in Tibet.

Saber25 · Jun 16, 2020, 10:52 PM

Seems to me that things are going semi-well in the pacific, but Russia looks like it is about to get hit by a serious uppercut. With a hammer blow likely headed for Calcutta, perhaps sending those air back to middle east, and then to Russia could make a difference in that theater?

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 16, 2020, 11:13 PM

It will get ugly for Russia soon. Stopping the Japanese advancing even further west will be a challenge after India falls, and of course you can’t ignore Germany and Italy. Here is what the board looked like in a previous Andrew game where he abandoned China. It is a bit different because he headed his Japanese troops South instead of West. triplea_34892_jap4.tsvg

Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 2

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