Italy Turn 1 Complete Game 32.tsvg
The ball is in ANZAC’s and France’s court.
Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB
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@Omega1759 said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
Agree with BomberHarris, don’t see what the bid gave us here.
Atleast it gave us lot of interesting discussion! :grin:
I agree with the sentiments.
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I will do a quick aussie and french fry, so any points you want me to hear, now’s the time.
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TripleA Turn Summary: ANZAC round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea ANZAC take Dutch New Guinea from Dutch 2 aaGuns and 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland 2 fighters moved from New Zealand to Queensland Place Units - ANZAC 1 infantry placed in New South Wales 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 15 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea ANZAC take Dutch New Guinea from Dutch 2 aaGuns and 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland 2 fighters moved from New Zealand to Queensland Place Units - ANZAC 1 infantry placed in New South Wales 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 15 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs Combat Move - French 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium French take Holland Belgium from Germans Combat - French Non Combat Move - French Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Scotland 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco 1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa 1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan 1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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This is my suggestion. I’ll hold a short while, maybe a few hours before finalizing.
There’s a possibility of taking out the italian tr with the french fig, but it can wait until US with a sb. Here I follow the plan of stacking up protection for the z109 fleet.
Grabbing Holland is a must and other than that the french forces try to consolidate.
ANZAC built a tr and inf. Classic.
I choose to sacrifice a tr in order to annect DNG for the objective. Japan has 3 tr in the area and 4 target territories, i e Malaya and the rest of the DEI. Would be surprised if they include DNG as a fifth target at this point.
The figs land in Queensland, protecting the fleet.
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I thought of buying a fig instead, but reasoned that US/ANZAC always needs tr’s in order to be able to project threats on the japanese position.
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Ok, @AndrewAAGamer, the floor is yours.
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This is going to be a painful second round. I assume that Germany will reinforce Gibraltar with a couple of planes, making it impervious to UK attack this round. If the UK Atlantic fleet parks in SZ91, I assume that Italy would be very happy to do a mutual-annihilation attack. That would prevent the Allies from having a credible threat in Europe for another few turns.
The main questions will be:
- what will Italy do with their massive income for the next 3 turns.
- will Germany choose a northern or southern route on G3
It is getting close to the point where I would give up as Allies and start a new game.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
This is going to be a painful second round. I assume that Germany will reinforce Gibraltar with a couple of planes, making it impervious to UK attack this round. If the UK Atlantic fleet parks in SZ91, I assume that Italy would be very happy to do a mutual-annihilation attack. That would prevent the Allies from having a credible threat in Europe for another few turns.
The main questions will be:
- what will Italy do with their massive income for the next 3 turns.
- will Germany choose a northern or southern route on G3
It is getting close to the point where I would give up as Allies and start a new game.
Luckily I’m behind the wheel and I’m not giving up easily. Ask @666 or @ksmckay. ;)
I have a plan. Maybe not a good one, but as Bent Larsen said, you got to have a plan. And you’re in on it. Just hope my dabbling doesn’t dissuade your interest in the game.
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The next few turns are relatively predictable, and I assume that you will switch a majority of USA spending to the Atlantic side, with UK starting to send reinforcements up to Russia. The bigger questions will be how Andrew starts preparing Fortress Europe, whether he opts for a quicker drive to Moscow, a diversion to the oil fields, or a Dark Skies bomber build. His main decision point will be on turn 2 since this next round has fairly obvious choices for each power.
I personally see this game as a perfect opportunity for Germany to build a bunch of bombers, making it expensive to build a sufficient Allied fleet in the Atlantic, rapidly respond to W Europe expeditionary forces, and still project power into Russia/oil fields.
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I agree. For me this is mainly a learning process, which is the true point of the game, so I stagger on.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
The next few turns are relatively predictable, and I assume that you will switch a majority of USA spending to the Atlantic side, with UK starting to send reinforcements up to Russia. The bigger questions will be how Andrew starts preparing Fortress Europe, whether he opts for a quicker drive to Moscow, a diversion to the oil fields, or a Dark Skies bomber build. His main decision point will be on turn 2 since this next round has fairly obvious choices for each power.
I personally see this game as a perfect opportunity for Germany to build a bunch of bombers, making it expensive to build a sufficient Allied fleet in the Atlantic, rapidly respond to W Europe expeditionary forces, and still project power into Russia/oil fields.
I think a quick drive to Moscow (aided by strategic bombing, maybe even Italian strategic bombing) is the way to go, combined with Japan going for India as quickly as possible (after securing DEI). If UK reinforces Moscow, India and the Middle East will fall. Without reinforcement, the Soviet Union will likely fall on G6. With reinforcement,
It would take considerable investment in the Atlantic for the US to catch up and the UK is committed to the middle east.
The Germans can destroy the UK destroyer, place the sub in 125 and start pushing into Russia whenever convenient (enabling strategic bombing to start, very tempting for Italians to buy a second strategic bomber for this purpose that can land into Eastern Poland on I3 and bomb Moscow on I4. The impact of the Italian raids and the general can opening pressure of the Italians (2 existing tanks + 2 fighters + 1 new tank + 2 mech purchased on I2 along with the new bomber) will force the Soviets to turtle.
Bombers can hit Soviet Union on G5 to finish the job.
There’s no chance of Soviets pushing back because the Italian can-opener will be too strong and a few German plans landing in those territories will crush any hope of counteratttack.
Germany would join bombing ray on
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I’m sure Andrew will move forward very solidly. We’ll just try and do our best joint effort, which likely is less strong than singular play.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
The next few turns are relatively predictable, and I assume that you will switch a majority of USA spending to the Atlantic side, with UK starting to send reinforcements up to Russia.
We’ll see. Japan is still the biggest threat here.
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Okay let’s think about G2. Is my capital safe? Yes. There is still a large UK fleet so Sealion is still off the table. Thanks to Italy being strong they can fight for the Med and protect Western Europe. That should allow Germany to focus on Russia. Good.
If Germany is going for Moscow I need fast movers to put pressure on Moscow as quickly as possible. There are no possible landings on the Atlantic Wall so I can go 100% against Russia. Since Italy is strong I can take Normandy too with a good change of holding it.
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@AndrewAAGamer said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
Okay let’s think about G2. Is my capital safe? Yes. There is still a large UK fleet so Sealion is still off the table. Thanks to Italy being strong they can fight for the Med and protect Western Europe. That should allow Germany to focus on Russia. Good.
If Germany is going for Moscow I need fast movers to put pressure on Moscow as quickly as possible. There are no possible landings on the Atlantic Wall so I can go 100% against Russia. Since Italy is strong I can take Normandy too with a good change of holding it.
Lots of fast movers, like 3 tanks and 12 mech, BOOM!
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@AndrewAAGamer said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
Okay let’s think about G2. Is my capital safe? Yes. There is still a large UK fleet so Sealion is still off the table. Thanks to Italy being strong they can fight for the Med and protect Western Europe. That should allow Germany to focus on Russia. Good.
If Germany is going for Moscow I need fast movers to put pressure on Moscow as quickly as possible. There are no possible landings on the Atlantic Wall so I can go 100% against Russia. Since Italy is strong I can take Normandy too with a good change of holding it.
Another point, not a scratch on the Luftwaffe. :)
Look forward to see if you go in straightaway or wait a turn.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 2
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0
Game History
Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 3 armour and 12 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 cruiser moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone Combat - GermansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Scramble SZ110? UK sub fights or dives round 1?
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@AndrewAAGamer obvious dive 1/6 chance to take out the cruiser while waiting half a turn means a guaranteed cruiser kill.
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