Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB

Often I move the Malta forces to Egypt on UK1. While Cairo is safe this round, a combined German+Italian strikes might take it down in another couple of turns. That extra inf+AA makes a big difference.

What are your plans for the Malaysian units? If they move up to Shan State, they will get killed by the FIC forces + planes. If they stay in Malaysia, they will get killed on J3. That is why I am a fan of strafing the FIC forces to protect the Malaysian units. Those three ground units are so helpful in extending the life of India.

@trulpen said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

@trulpen guess you aren’t a fan of the FIC strafe.

You might need the SZ98 transport to ferry soldiers to Egypt. Check the battle calc.

It’s simply too risky. The short-term benifit of further dissuading a japanese all-out air-strike on Yunnan is countered by the long-term disadvantage of losing air. I believe the latter is heavier in this instance.

Do you mean from Tobruk? Yes, that’s a good purpose, but shouldn’t Cairo be rather safe with 3 inf, 1 fig and 1 tac? Italy can’t reach with more than 2 inf, 2 art this turn, right?

They can reach with 2 inf, 1 armor, 1 art, and a bomber. And that assumes that lose in 96. That is likely but I’d want to be more certain.

@trulpen If you are very committed to going for it, I would still take another sub to 96. 110 can afford to lose one. If you didn’t go for it, I think he might be able to stack Alex with German support such that he couldn’t be dislodged. But I also don’t see him having much success taking Egypt as long as you kept the air in reach, brought the Malta units back and had the India transport take an inf to take Persia.And he would need that German air back in Europe after a turn or two. I haven’t calculated the risk of that, but I think it is likely the case.

@trulpen that is an option too, and it should work out, but then he has about 5% odds to win Tobruk. I think going for Tobruk and losing either 96 or Tobruk would be a disaster. Especially since you won’t have air around Gibraltar that can rescue it in an emergency.

@farmboy said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

@trulpen that is an option too, and it should work out, but then he has about 5% odds to win Tobruk. I think going for Tobruk and losing either 96 or Tobruk would be a disaster. Especially since you won’t have air around Gibraltar that can rescue it in an emergency.

Probably I wouldn’t hit Tobruk yet, but I play pretty conservatively

Once the UK turn is done, curious if you compare the position to this one, which is an aggressive ally move, both done with and without Taranto.

In the Taranto scramble game, the German player is down to 11 planes.

Now let’s see what Italy can do.

It can take on the carrier + fighters with everything they have. It’s a toss up with negative IPC swing, leaves no land attack except for Southern France and Tunisia.

If they don’t take carriers / fighters, then they probably hit 96 (85% battle without bomber, lets the French boats escape the Med, not good.

So Italy attacks the French fleet, cannot attack Greece,

They cannot attack the 99 transport either.

So now let’s look at Germany’s commitments: 110 is possible if build carrier, but not great odds, potentially costly. London can be reinforced. That attack would leave Greece alone, 97 alone, 96 alone and 99 alone. There is no air support for Normandy/Holland. At least 4 units are needed for Normandy and 3 for Holland to avoid failing retaking them. That accounts for all the artillery and the mech Infantry which isn’t ideal. How can Germany go after the Soviet Union with 5 planes left, no navy, and Greece in UK hands (with Italy Crippled). Sea Lion may be possible but costly and dependent on outcome of 110 battle.

The wise move is to hit the 99 transport (must do, southern Italy tactical). There are 4 fighters, 4 tacs and 2 bombers left. Bombing raid on London can’t be done without ignoring 97. If want to both kill 97 and Greece, you send 3 airplanes to Greece + Tank + Infantry (+5 IPC 98% battle).

The remaining 3 fighters, 3 tacs and 1 bomber face the carrier and fighters, that’s a +20 IPC battle.

Now I haven’t touched the British cruiser in 96, or the American cruiser in 91. If I want to hit the British cruiser in 96 I send 2 bombers, which leaves only 5 planes for 97 (that becomes a 90% battle in this case)

Plane losses would be 0.5 plane in Greece, 0.5 plane in 96, 2.5 planes in 97. That takes the Luftwaffe down from 11 planes to 8 planes, which non only helps the Soviets but also reduces the potency of the Luftwaffe attack on 110.

With benefit of American reinforcements and this reduced strength, another landing can take place, and a second fleet can establish itself in 92. With taking Greece, Persia and Holland, UK income is a great 39 which can provide quite a bit of punch if Italy remains contained. Before you know it, Germany has its hands full here. Am I too optimistic here?

On Pacific side, I like how rare Japanese units are on Islands/near the continents. The US doesn’t have much fleet yet but we know the Japanese fleet will be in the money Island/near India for a while. Why bother build a large navy when you can link up Queensland and Malaya. Planes are more flexible and faster.

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@trulpen you might want to do a turn everyday. Otherwise the match will dragon on for half a year.

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

@trulpen you might want to do a turn everyday. Otherwise the match will dragon on for half a year.

While not 100% agreeing with Arthur I do agree with his sentiment. We need to take a Turn at least every 3 days at most; shooting more for every two days. I think that will assist in keeping people’s interest and still allowing enough time to gather the World’s input.

I’m not sure what you think the consensus move is…lots of opinions here. Perhaps, post what you plan to do? And we can add our $0.02. That said UK1 is always going to be a difficult move because it pretty much starts the Allies on their long term plan.

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Combat Move - British
        1 destroyer moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 106 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Scotland to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
        2 infantry moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone

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