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Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB
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It’s easy to miss. I almost did.
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The good news is that as I see an all out push by G to attack Moscow in 2 turns with max def buy (9 inf + ftr) + max off buy (3 sb + 3 tanks) The battle is 75:25, and just a few allied ftrs can stop that. Russia is turning a corner
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Hold your horses.
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Ok, no more feedback. Consider the russian turn finalized.
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Don’t know why but recently I have a grid on this map now. I have not been able to figure out why it appeared and how to remove it. It is very annoying and makes it hard to take my Turn as I am not exactly sure what lines are the grid and which ones are real borders. Anyone know how to turn it off?
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Is my Capitol safe? The US has a 4 infantry, mech and artillery attack I need to consider. No planes can make it and no bombard as Japan still has Kamikazes. With no ANZAC transport in range there is no ANZAC follow on attack.
Need to beef up the Philippines so the US cannot push the IJN out of position. Need more fighters there and fewer tactical since Japan cannot hit the Allied fleet anyway. Also looks like Japan can take India and West India and secure India; which is good so Japan can build there next Turn. Need to take Java back. China is not looking good and not sure how to turn that round. Probably can’t. Looks like will need to pull back from that stack so the Jap planes can be freed up for other duties; like landing in India to hold it next Turn and the Philippines. So last Turn holding Anwhe. That means Japan needs carriers to land planes on next Turn to fight the US fleet.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ceylon to 39 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India 1 armour moved from Shan State to India Japanese take Burma from UK_Pacific 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Hunan Japanese take Hunan from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 artillery moved from Shan State to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 2 bombers moved from French Indo China to Java 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to India 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 39 Sea Zone to West India 2 transports moved from 39 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Shan State to 38 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Shan State to 38 Sea Zone 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 38 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Ceylon to 39 Sea Zone 6 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to India 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Hopei 7 fighters moved from Anhwe to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey Japanese take Yenisey from Russians 1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey Combat - Japanese Battle in India Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in India, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in India, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 3.83 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in India, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the British lost in India Japanese captures 5PUs while taking UK_Pacific capital Japanese win, taking India from UK_Pacific with 1 armour, 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 2 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 7 fighters and 1 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 7 fighters and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 7 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in West India Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in West India, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in West India, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in West India Japanese win, taking West India from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Battle in Hopei Japanese attack with 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Hopei, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Japanese win, taking Hopei from Chinese with 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Java Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry ANZAC defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 artillery owned by the ANZAC lost in Java Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 42 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 tactical_bomber moved from West India to 39 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from West India to 39 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from India to Shan State 2 bombers moved from Java to Shan State 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Anhwe 1 artillery moved from Chahar to Anhwe 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hopei to Anhwe 2 fighters moved from Japan to 35 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Shan State 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Shan State 1 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Anhwe 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Anhwe 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Shan State 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Shan State 1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 37 Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from Yunnan to Anhwe Place Units - Japanese 2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 37 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in French Indo China 3 fighters placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 71 PUs; end with 76 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 86 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
ANZAC : -0.67 Chinese : -0.67 UK_Pacific : -0.33 Japanese : 0.83 -
Ok, guys, ideas for the US/Ch/UK-superturn?
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For the US in EU I’m considering mainly 3 options: a) Land in Normandie, b) land in Greece and stacking fleet in z97, c) neutral crush.
I’m leaning towards b, although it does put the fleet rather out of play.
In the Pac keep stacking by the Carolines. The USN doesn’t yet have the strength to take on the full japanese wrath.
China hits 1-3 territories.
UK follows suit. Maybe putting some fleet in z80.
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Maybe it’s possible to do both a and b?
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@trulpen said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
Maybe it’s possible to do both a and b?
If you do both of these, how will your setup be long term? Can you sustain both offensives after this turn?
-Midnight_Reaper
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My preliminary, sloppy analysis is that a landing in Greece needs max effort, but perhaps putting some of the fleet in z97 while landing in Normandie could be possible. Fleet in z97 will be out of place for anything but obliterate the italian fleet.
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I wouldn’t suggest neutral crush unless you think you are in a position to start ferrying substantial US units to Europe. If you are mostly spending on Japan (which I think you have to given their income) than I think the neutral crush becomes harder to sustain.
Assuming you can hold them, I would seriously consider going all in for Greece and 97. Greece is a great launching pad for taking Italy (so German units can get tied up protecting it) and air from Greece can reach Norway (with an AB) and Moscow.
He may have enough German land units to take it back before you can properly set up but if so, that is pressure taken off of Moscow or Norway. And you should be able to drop a lot of air there and have a lot of British inf that can be landed. So it would be a challenge for him, especially if you are strat bombing germany.
Normandy is also a good option and he is not that well set up at the moment to take it back. I’d also wonder if you have enough air between Normandy and Greece to hold both. This probably would require a UK naval build in 110 (which might not be the most efficient thing to spend on at the moment) and the UK/Fr air from the mid east would be needed Greece and the US air from EUS might also need to come east to 110.
(And don’t forget about his air in Novgorod. The bombers can hit you in 97 and 110 and the other air can hit 97 if Italy builds a carrier)In the Pacific, Carolines is a good option and probably I would stick there for now. Down the road, Marianas with a naval base would be another. Air is in reach of Tokyo but you are just as close to Philippines and the money islands. This probably means that you need to take Palau (with ANZAC) and Iwo Jima with the US to deny his air landing options. Given that he just spent money on two carriers though, I might want to spend on units rather than a naval base this turn.
And maybe it is worth putting the UK fleet back in 80 (which would mean that Normandy is the better option in Europe). I’d probably go for Greece first and then bring it back, but maybe that gives too much time to Japan to secure its position?
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I think a landing in Greece looks like the best option. Joined by brittish land, it should be easy to hold and create an atleast on the short term stable outpost.
If the US-carrier gets damaged in z97, the 2 UK-figs can’t leave it and won’t be able to take part in eventual defence, right?
Looks like we will need the UK ac in z97, but can build another one in z80, together with 1 des, 2 cr that move there. Idea is to bring in all subs and take out the IN next turn.
I’m keen on blocking in z77 so that J won’t be able to disrupt the nice russian income-boost.
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This way there’s no need for an ab in Norway, I think. 2 UK-figs may move down to the US-carrier. Will only need 2 figs in Greece to hold against the italian onslaught.
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One bonus with this move is that we won’t waste the russian sub.
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If Italy scrambles and it fizzles, we may as backup move in more fleet than originally intended, securing z97 against german air.
See though that we may bring in an sb from Norway, so the landing in Greece should be secured.
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Another idea I consider is to move down to z54 in order to pressure the DEI more and being able to take out the tr in z42 without having to waste a sub. What do you say? The fleet is still very flexible from there, may for instance go to Marianas next turn or perhaps make a solid landing on some island. Presume it will be contested, but that ties J up a bit in the south-east.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 7
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 5 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 2 fighters moved from Norway to Finland 1 bomber moved from Norway to 97 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Norway to GermanyCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@trulpen said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
Another idea I consider is to move down to z54 in order to pressure the DEI more and being able to take out the tr in z42 without having to waste a sub. What do you say? The fleet is still very flexible from there, may for instance go to Marianas next turn or perhaps make a solid landing on some island. Presume it will be contested, but that ties J up a bit in the south-east.
At the same time the Carolines is a better position and 1 des, 1 sub, 1 tr is able to join up with the USN. Perhaps worth 1 aussie sub? Another idea is to move down only one ac with aussie figs on it, hit the tr, land the other fig in Queensland and be happy. If J goes after it, anything that does will likely die. Unless J is able to stack in the vicinity of z54.
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