Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Leningrad to Archangel Germans take Archangel from Russians 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Archangel to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 armour moved from Leningrad to Vologda Germans take Vologda from Russians 1 armour moved from Vologda to Leningrad 1 armour moved from Leningrad to Novgorod Germans take Novgorod from Russians 1 armour moved from Novgorod to Leningrad 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Leningrad to Vyborg 1 transport moved from 116 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Poland to 117 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 armour, 4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from France to Norway 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Norway 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Germany to Norway 1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus Germans take Southern Belarus from Russians 1 armour moved from Southern Belarus to Eastern Poland Combat - Germans Russians scrambles 2 units out of 128 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in Norway Battle in Norway Germans attack with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 5 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Americans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry Germans win, taking Norway from Russians with 1 armour, 3 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 57 Casualties for Germans: 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 5 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Vyborg Germans attack with 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans win, taking Vyborg from Russians with 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 11 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland 1 destroyer moved from 118 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 116 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to Leningrad 1 fighter and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Norway to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany 5 infantry placed in Germany 2 infantry placed in Western Germany Germans undo move 1. 3 fighters placed in France 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany Germans undo move 3. 2 fighters placed in France 1 fighter placed in Western Germany 2 destroyers placed in 116 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 128 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3,1,6,5,2,3,6,4,3,4,5,4,1,4 Germans collect 54 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUsL20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3
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so
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u ve sent 2 inf from kiangsi to kwangtung in CM
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u ve sent 2 units (?) from tokyo to kiangsi in NCM
is this correct?
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
i think this is not a big issue, in the terms of affecting the game,
its just an example of a thing that can be pretty messy in some other situations, and I think its not good we make a habiit of these move.
as for me, its almost the same, it doesnt bother me, but i think the principle is not good
I agree principally. But sending 2 inf from Tokyo is ok then? Then the battle is the same. My intent was to go in with 3 land units in Kwangtung.
yeah ,it seems u ve send them from kiangsi to kwangtung, and ur cruiser didnt shoot?
but it seems also u ve send units from tokyo to kiangsi in ncm?
ah it shot, because u had a marine ok
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
so
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u ve sent 2 inf from kiangsi to kwangtung in CM
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u ve sent 2 units (?) from tokyo to kiangsi in NCM
is this correct?
and whats the problem here,
whats not good?
u want to send units from tokyo to kwangtung?
and those from kiangsi to to hunan or anhwe?
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
i think this is not a big issue, in the terms of affecting the game,
its just an example of a thing that can be pretty messy in some other situations, and I think its not good we make a habiit of these move.
as for me, its almost the same, it doesnt bother me, but i think the principle is not good
I agree principally. But sending 2 inf from Tokyo is ok then? Then the battle is the same. My intent was to go in with 3 land units in Kwangtung.
yeah ,it seems u ve send them from kiangsi to kwangtung, and ur cruiser didnt shoot?
but it seems also u ve send units from tokyo to kiangsi in ncm?
The cr did shore bombardment. The marine attacked from the cr.
I missed the tr in Tokyo that should’ve landed units in Kwangtung.
Instead I used the 2 inf from Kiangsi.
I find it not at all dubious to change those 2 inf for the 2 from Tokyo.
Of course I would like to stack up in Kwangsi as much as possible.
I didn’t attack Kwangtung with 5 land units, but 3. That was my intent and the battle itself is how I wanted it. Simply an issue of which land units to use.
Anyway, it’s probably not a real issue, since Kwangsi has a ton of air and likely not attackable anyway, but this is how I’d like to have moved.
If you do not allow it, I’ll respect that and land 1 inf, 1 art in Kiangsi instead.
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what units did u bring from tokyo ? inf and art?
so instead of having 2 inf in kwangtung, and 1 inf 1 art in kiangsi
u want to have
1 art 1 inf in kwangtgung, and 2 inf in kiangsi?
just a switch?
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or you want to send 2 inf from kiangsi to kwangsi (instead of sending them to kwantgung)
and 1 inf 1 art from tokyo to kwantgung?
IS THIS IT?
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
or you want to send 2 inf from kiangsi to kwangsi (instead of sending them to kwantgung)
and 1 inf 1 art from tokyo to kwantgung?
IS THIS IT?
Yes, but correct that with 2 inf from Tokyo instead, so the battle was correct.
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@trulpen said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
or you want to send 2 inf from kiangsi to kwangsi (instead of sending them to kwantgung)
and 1 inf 1 art from tokyo to kwantgung?
IS THIS IT?
Yes, but correct that with 2 inf from Tokyo instead, so the battle was correct.
no its ok then, u can send inf art too, since its even stronger then what u had, i have no problem with taht
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u can not send weaker force, only stronger or the same
and 1 inf 1 art is not weaker then 2 inf
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Thanks! Sending the art would be more risk. I go on your line of trying to preserve the battle. I’m ok with that.
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its totally ok i misunderstood what u did, please wrrite it other time so i know, i did not knew u had more units to bring from tokyo, i realized u finished a battle in kwangtung and wanted to move that guy after the battle, and to send less units or weaker units there, since u should probably win with less units too
i apologise if u found offended i have confidence in u and u re defeinitely not a cheater
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US has green light then. Last game post, please.
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@trulpen said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
Thanks! Sending the art would be more risk. I go on your line of trying to preserve the battle. I’m ok with that.
u can send it, since 1 inf 1 art, is not weaker then 2 inf u send from kiangsi
so u can not send only 1 art, but 1 art 1 inf, are even stronger then 2 inf so its totally ok
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
its totally ok i misunderstood what u did, please wrrite it other time so i know, i did not knew u had more units to bring from tokyo, i realized u finished a battle in kwangtung and wanted to move that guy after the battle, and to send less units or weaker units there, since u should probably win with less units too
i apologise if u found offended i have confidence in u and u re defeinitely not a cheater
Then I understand. I agree, sending less units would be wrong and should not be allowed.
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
Thanks! Sending the art would be more risk. I go on your line of trying to preserve the battle. I’m ok with that.
u can send it, since 1 inf 1 art, is not weaker then 2 inf u send from kiangsi
so u can not send only 1 art, but 1 art 1 inf, are even stronger then 2 inf so its totally ok
Ok, I’ll send a last game post with that correction.
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@trulpen said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
its totally ok i misunderstood what u did, please wrrite it other time so i know, i did not knew u had more units to bring from tokyo, i realized u finished a battle in kwangtung and wanted to move that guy after the battle, and to send less units or weaker units there, since u should probably win with less units too
i apologise if u found offended i have confidence in u and u re defeinitely not a cheater
Then I understand. I agree, sending less units would be wrong and should not be allowed.
and then i looked at game log, u had 1/9 in rd 1 xd and cruiser missed, so it proves my point, but not in this situation in the end
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@trulpen said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 #4 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+10) BM3:
Thanks! Sending the art would be more risk. I go on your line of trying to preserve the battle. I’m ok with that.
u can send it, since 1 inf 1 art, is not weaker then 2 inf u send from kiangsi
so u can not send only 1 art, but 1 art 1 inf, are even stronger then 2 inf so its totally ok
Ok, I’ll send a last game post with that correction.
so u can send 2 units from japan there , but both with combat value (no aa gun)
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 carriers and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 45 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to Dutch New Guinea 2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Java 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi Japanese take Shensi from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kweichow 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung 2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to India 1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Kweichow 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kwangtung 1 fighter moved from Hunan to Kwangtung 1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung Combat - Japanese Strategic bombing raid in India AA fire in India : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits Bombing raid in India rolls: 4,3 and causes: 7 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in India causes 7 damage total. Battle in Borneo Battle in 61 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 61 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Sumatra Battle in Celebes Battle in Kweichow Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 mech_infantry Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 3,00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kweichow Japanese win, taking Sumatra from Dutch, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Kweichow from Chinese with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry Battle in Java Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber ANZAC defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Java, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Battle in Kwangtung Japanese attack with 4 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/9 hits, 4,00 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers in Kwangtung, round 3 : 4/9 hits, 4,00 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangtung, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 4 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 2 infantry Battle in 45 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2,17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 cruiser in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the ANZAC lost in 45 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 cruiser Battle in Dutch New Guinea Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber ANZAC defend with 1 marine Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 marine in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 marine owned by the ANZAC lost in Dutch New Guinea Japanese win, taking Dutch New Guinea from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 marine Non Combat Move - Japanese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 carrier moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 61 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 45 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 41 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 2 bombers moved from India to Kwangsi 1 aaGun moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Kwangsi 1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kweichow to Kwangsi 4 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe 1 armour moved from Jehol to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Kwangtung: 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kwangsi: 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 carriers placed in 6 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Kiangsu Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 50 PUs; end with 53 PUs Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 63 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 41 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 45 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Kwangtung: 1 artillery EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Japan: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Japan: 1 artillery EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kwangtung: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 45 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 41 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Kwangtung: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kwangtung: 1 artillery EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Japan: 1 artillery EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Japan: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
ANZAC : -0,17 Chinese : -0,33 UK_Pacific : -1,00 AA fire in India : : -0,33 Japanese : -4,00
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Go yankees, go! :flag-us:
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yankees are not at war its strange to play when u re neutral xd