@nikola1975 said in L25 PtV Simon33 (Allies) vs Nikola1975 (Axis + 13):
@simon33 Yes, let’s see what we can make out of it. Haven’t played it in a long time; forgot about Manila scramble.
A small chance of keeping the plane alive.
Well, if you had edited correctly and given siam to UK pacific in the first place, then what?
I think what I am saying is correct, but feel free to request a ruling. I am not accepting the second convoy roll as i believe the first set is the one we should go with (I can be mistaken, but this is my understanding)
i do not have a problem with few ipc more or less, all though uk pacific doesnt have much so it can mean,
i just think i am right here
and its more like a principle,
but i think its the best we seek moderator mediation, Gamerman?
and we have a final word on it,
i have no problem with it, and we have the time to play
ok?
@oysteilo said in L20 #2 Oysteilo (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+9) BM3:
Well, if you had edited correctly and given siam to UK pacific in the first place, then what?
I think what I am saying is correct, but feel free to request a ruling. I am not accepting the second convoy roll as i believe the first set is the one we should go with (I can be mistaken, but this is my understanding)
i ve gave siam to uk pacific after the convoy rolls
if i hadnt, there wouldnt be 2 rolls
thats the thing
the first convoy rolls were rolled on uk turn. (since uk had siam then)
the second rolls were rolled on uk pacific turn, but they were the first rolls on uk pacific turn
both interpretations (urs and mine) have a logic pattern, so i think its the best we give it to the moderators to decide ?
I am not at the map right now so it is a little difficult for me to be 100% sure, but there should only be one convoy roll and if you did the siam edit after the convoy roll then I certainly do not understand why there are 2 set of rolls
I am fine with gamerman or 666 or even someone else
UK has Siam
UK Pacific has Malaya and Shan State
its logical there are two sets of rolls
I ve done the edit in siam (taking of territory) before any rolls
but i didnt edit the owner (from british to uk pacific) before any rolls
i dont know what the right thing is here and I think we should ask which convoy rolls should be used.
Can anyone rule this? @gamerman01 , @666 or even @JDOW
ok, its better we solve it this way and then we know if anything similar happens in the future , what to do.
cheers
@oysteilo said in L20 #2 Oysteilo (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+9) BM3:
i dont know what the right thing is here and I think we should ask which convoy rolls should be used.
Can anyone rule this? @gamerman01 , @666 or even @JDOW
I am NOT your guy, I can’t seem to get the rules straight all the time, haha…
@Adam514 is your man if Gamerman isn’t around.
I’d say reroll the convoy.
I can live with that. In any case i will proceed as it does not need to be decided before end of russia
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - Italians
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing ownership of Siam from British to UK_Pacific
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing PUs for British from 36 to 37
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing PUs for UK_Pacific from 13 to 14
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing PUs for British from 37 to 36
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Italians buy 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;
Combat Move - Italians
2 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Bryansk
Combat - Italians
Battle in Bryansk
Italians attack with 2 armour and 1 bomber
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Italians roll dice for 2 armour and 1 bomber in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Bryansk
Italians win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
Casualties for Italians: 1 armour
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Italians
1 bomber moved from Bryansk to Novgorod
2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany
Place Units - Italians
1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy
Turn Complete - Italians
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,2,4,5,5,2
Italians collect 9 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 11 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians : -0,67
Russians : 0,67
@oysteilo said in L20 #2 Oysteilo (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+9) BM3:
I can live with that. In any case i will proceed as it does not need to be decided before end of russia
i think gamerman will show up by then
cheers
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 2 destroyers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - ANZAC
2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
ANZAC take Tobruk from Italians
Combat - ANZAC
Battle in Java
Non Combat Move - ANZAC
1 artillery moved from New South Wales to Queensland
2 submarines moved from 62 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
3 fighters moved from Queensland to Caroline Islands
Place Units - ANZAC
2 destroyers placed in 62 Sea Zone
Turn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs
Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs
Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 20 PUs
Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 23 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 2 destroyers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - ANZAC
2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
ANZAC take Tobruk from Italians
Combat - ANZAC
Battle in Java
Non Combat Move - ANZAC
1 artillery moved from New South Wales to Queensland
2 submarines moved from 62 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
3 fighters moved from Queensland to Caroline Islands
Place Units - ANZAC
2 destroyers placed in 62 Sea Zone
Turn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs
Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs
Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 20 PUs
Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 23 PUs
Combat Move - French
Non Combat Move - French
1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
Turn Complete - French
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
French inf in sz 110 are on USA trannies. (just as UK units there)
cheers
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 5
Research Technology - Germans
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
1 mech_infantry moved from Belarus to Rostov
Germans take Rostov from Russians
6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Holland Belgium
1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Holland Belgium
Combat - Germans
Battle in Holland Belgium
Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 3 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
British defend with 2 aaGuns and 2 infantry; Americans defend with 1 artillery, 4 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry
AA fire in Holland Belgium : 0/5 hits, 0,83 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 3 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 5/13 hits, 4,50 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 6 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/9 hits, 3,00 expected hits
2 aaGuns owned by the British, 2 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium
Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 3 : 2/11 hits, 4,17 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry in Holland Belgium, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 2,00 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the Americans, 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Holland Belgium
Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 4 : 5/9 hits, 3,83 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry in Holland Belgium, round 4 : 3/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
1 marine owned by the Americans, 1 artillery owned by the Americans, 3 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the British and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium
Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from Americans with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery, 4 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry
Casualties for British: 2 aaGuns and 2 infantry
Battle in Archangel
Germans attack with 6 infantry
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 6 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1,00 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel
Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Germans
2 armour moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
3 aaGuns, 8 artilleries, 29 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Bryansk
1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
6 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
1 aaGun moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Belarus
3 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
1 bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Germany
1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Germany
1 infantry moved from Southern France to France
Place Units - Germans
3 infantry placed in Ukraine
3 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod
1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in France
2 infantry placed in Southern France
2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
3 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
Turn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs
Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 61 PUs
Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans : 0,50
Americans : 0,67
Russians : 0,67
AA fire in Holland Belgium : : -0,83
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 5
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Samara to Rostov
1 infantry moved from Tambov to Rostov
1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov
1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangtung
Combat - Russians
Battle in Kwangtung
Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
Japanese defend with 1 armour and 1 harbour
Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Kwangtung, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 armour in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangtung
Russians win, taking Kwangtung from Japanese with 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry
Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour
Battle in Rostov
Russians attack with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Rostov, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
Russians win, taking Rostov from Germans with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
Non Combat Move - Russians
1 armour moved from Samara to Russia
1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov
2 aaGuns and 18 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Yunnan
1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Samara
1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
Place Units - Russians
2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Volgograd
1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys placed in Russia
Russians undo move 1.
2 infantry placed in Volgograd
1 mech_infantry placed in Russia
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUs
Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 28 PUs
Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 30 PUs
Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 32 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans : -0.33
Russians : 0.50
Japanese : 0.50