L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3

i am definitely lookin forward to a new game with axis on this forum, all though not my favs, i think that with small bid for allies i can make a pretty good axis game

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

ish win, taking Malaya from Japanese with 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
Casualties for British: 1 bomber and 1 infantry
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

i have an impression that ur usual games with axis do not look like this one xd

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 5

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Cyprus to 99 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Crete to 99 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Tunisia
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 92 Sea Zone

    Combat - Italians

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Cyprus to 99 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Crete to 99 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Tunisia
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 92 Sea Zone

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Algeria
        Battle in 92 Sea Zone
            Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 submarine
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2,50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 92 Sea Zone
            Italians win, taking Algeria from Americans with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Tunisia
            Italians attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 armour
                Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 armour owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tunisia
            Italians win, taking Tunisia from Americans with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 armour

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from 92 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
        2 armour and 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk

    Place Units - Italians
        1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2
        Italians collect 13 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 13 PUs
        Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 18 PUs
        Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 21 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians : -1,33
Americans : 0,17

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wait i ll look at the map

@trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

I will assume no scramble, since it’s bad odds for the defender.

If you wanted to scramble, I’ll re-roll the whole battle.

u should of wait me a few min, i was online

so what u saw bad dices and u then decided we will re roll if i scramble?

@trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

I will assume no scramble, since it’s bad odds for the defender.

If you wanted to scramble, I’ll re-roll the whole battle.

the standard procedure is that the dices scored are kept, so its a risk for the attacker. u should of know that

otherwise what u scored good dices its ok, u scored bad ones, we re roll

no no, that is not the way

i WONT SCRAMBLE

BUT NEXT TIME IF U GO FOR THAT TYPE OF ATTACK WITHOUT ASKING ME THE RISKS IS YOURS

u score bad dices
ur problem
we dont re roll it

cheers

i have to go

I am sorry I assumed wrong one thing, u said if u score good dice we re roll the same

But u must know that according to league rules ur rushing into scramble battle is ur risk alone, and u have to bear the concenquences of it. So no re roll, unless i accept. Since i dont like to cause trouble for players, i wont ask it, i wont scramble as i wouldnt before knowing the dice,

But against some other players u ll maybe wont be that luckY.

If u want to hasten do it. But u must bear the risks.

And the moderators cant help here. Its a clear rule. Only the good will of the defender can help. As i say its not so much about this particular situation, as its for the future.

P. S.
U wrote a mssg here and dice we rolled at the same minute so its impossible to know did u see the dice first and then wrote the msg.

But i trust u so far to be pretty sure u were honest, but as i say in some play off or other games u ll probably get, sanked for nothing.

@trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

Sorry. Was in a rush. Had to run off for running practise and wanted to have Italy ready for you.

I have family issues. And no need to rush anyway. The, game, will be finished sooner or later xd

@trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

I wrote in advance (I would never re-roll on my part), so it’s actually to the defenders advantage if good dice was scored and at the same time not being able to capitalize on bad dice. I think it’s a correct procedure and usually do it like that with scramble assumptions. It’s very different from causalty selection. It’s important for me that we have a mutual agreement about procedures, so I’ll avoid assumption in the future.

How its to my advantage since if have to re roll?

U score good dices, my advantage.
U score bad dicea, your advantage.

So its null.

But the risk is the attackers. Always.

The same was for me when i was attaxcking sz 54 with jap to speed up the game

So next time u dont have to ask me for scramble, but what u score u scored. And i decide upon scrambling knowing rd 1 dices.

Cus tehnically no dices should be re rolled, we can just add my scrambled figs.

The dices can, not be nullified (except that case maybe when i rolled as the, defender by accident)