Game History
Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 6 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 unit repaired. 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 118 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 3 submarines moved from 112 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 armour moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 119 Sea Zone to Scotland Combat - Germans Air Battle in United Kingdom Germans attacks with 2 units heading to United Kingdom Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 3,8 and causes: 11 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 11 damage total. Battle in Scotland Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans win, taking Scotland from British, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 4 armour and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in 118 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter, 3 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Germans win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in 104 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 destroyer Germans win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Cleaning up after air battles Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 118 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 2 armour moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Poland to Germany 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary 5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary 3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Western Germany 1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany 3 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany Place Units - Germans 1 carrier and 6 transports placed in 112 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUsL20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3
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I took quite a high risk there when blocking with 2 des. If Italy had succeded breaking the block that whole fleet would now be ocean filling.
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@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
The only two shadows in your setups is holding out on the Russians and lack of land in Asia.
Yeah, well, I am a solid, not a perfect player.
And some sacrificies had to be made for greater good.
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@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
Yes, and not so high income as well. That hurts. Which was the point of all that SBR.
I miss Novgorod, that is +7 ;)
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
And some sacrificies had to be made for greater good.
Said the Nazi! :laughing:
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@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
I took quite a high risk there when blocking with 2 des. If Italy had succeded breaking the block that whole fleet would now be ocean filling.
I had 30 % I think, I simply had to try.
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Yes, that was the main point of stacking there. Not so much to put pressure on Finland and Norway. On short sight that’s rather pointless for dear Russia.
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@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
The only two shadows in your setups is holding out on the Russians and lack of land in Asia.
What do U mean by holding out on the Russians, U mean playing too defensively against Russia?
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@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
Yes, that was the main point of stacking there. Not so much to put pressure on Finland and Norway. On short sight that’s rather pointless for dear Russia.
Allied cooperation. nice.
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@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
Yes, that was the main point of stacking there. Not so much to put pressure on Finland and Norway. On short sight that’s rather pointless for dear Russia.
At the same time I had a very good alternative of staying in Belarus and preventing intrusion in E Poland. But maybe I didn’t have quite enough for that feat?
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I am not sure now, hard to tell, should had to go to look the past situation on the map.
i am thinking about my German move now, and buyings, there are more options, and I need to choose one of them xd
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
What do U mean by holding out on the Russians, U mean playing too defensively against Russia?
Yes, and mainly a lot of investment has gone into fleet and kicking UKs butt, but that means Germany is rather weak on the eastern front. I believe more immediate pressure has to be made against Russia. It’s Germany’s key objective in the early game. Early Sea Lion is a trap.
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At the same time you killed me with your awkward (or atleast unorthodox) allied opening. It’s a bit too early to conclude this game. Italy is a powerhouse!
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@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
What do U mean by holding out on the Russians, U mean playing too defensively against Russia?
Yes, and mainly a lot of investment has gone into fleet and kicking UKs butt, but that means Germany is rather weak on the eastern front. I believe more immediate pressure has to be made against Russia. It’s Germany’s key objective in the early game. Early Sea Lion is a trap.
So U do not think Sea Lion (even if sucessfull) is a good option?
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hey, just one thing about Mongolian treaty.
U can only break it if U attack Japanese territory bordering Mongolia.
If U attack Japanese controlled Kansu , U deactivate the Treaty.
But if U attack Japan in Sikang U do not.
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
So U do not think Sea Lion (even if sucessfull) is a good option?
No. Definitely not. The only exception is if it was able to be executed with minimal investments.
Now I’m not saying this about Sea Lion in general, only the very early one, like during G2-4.
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
hey, just one thing about Mongolian treaty.
U can only break it if U attack Japanese territory bordering Mongolia.
If U attack Japanese controlled Kansu , U deactivate the Treaty.
But if U attack Japan in Sikang U do not.
I presume you mean Suiyuyan. Yes, it only gets in effect regarding territories bordering Mongolia.
If Japan conquers Suiyuyan and Russia attacks it, Mongolia is off.
By the same measure I don’t believe it gets activated if Japan attacks Suiyuyan and there are russian troops there. So activating Mongolia would only happen when attacking russian territories.
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@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
hey, just one thing about Mongolian treaty.
U can only break it if U attack Japanese territory bordering Mongolia.
If U attack Japanese controlled Kansu , U deactivate the Treaty.
But if U attack Japan in Sikang U do not.
I presume you mean Suiyuyan. Yes, it only gets in effect regarding territories bordering Mongolia.
If Japan conquers Suiyuyan and Russia attacks it, Mongolia is off.
By the same measure I don’t believe it gets activated if Japan attacks Suiyuyan and there are russian troops there. So activating Mongolia would only happen when attacking russian territories.
Suyiyuan, Kansu, Chahar,i mean all of them.
Well it is different. Japan activates Mongolian treaty only when attackin ORIGINAL Russian territories bordering Mongolia,
while Russia can deactivate it while attacking any Japanese territory bordering Mongolia (does not have to be original Japanese one).
And i think if Russia attacks Korea its the same as attacking Japanese territory bordering Mongolia -
ok, i ve done my buyings.
let s roll
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:
Suyiyuan, Kansu, Chahar,i mean all of them.
Well it is different. Japan activates Mongolian treaty only when attackin ORIGINAL Russian territories bordering Mongolia,
while Russia can deactivate it while attacking any Japanese territory bordering Mongolia (does not have to be original Japanese one).
And i think if Russia attacks Korea its the same as attacking Japanese territory bordering MongoliaCorrect.
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the battles are over.
ncm and placement to go.
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