Game History
Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 6 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 unit repaired. 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 118 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 3 submarines moved from 112 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 armour moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 119 Sea Zone to Scotland Combat - Germans Air Battle in United Kingdom Germans attacks with 2 units heading to United Kingdom Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 3,8 and causes: 11 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 11 damage total. Battle in Scotland Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans win, taking Scotland from British, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 4 armour and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in 118 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter, 3 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Germans win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in 104 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 destroyer Germans win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Cleaning up after air battles Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 118 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 2 armour moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Poland to Germany 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary 5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary 3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Western Germany 1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany 3 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany Place Units - Germans 1 carrier and 6 transports placed in 112 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUsL20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3
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I agree with your evaluations.
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@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:
I agree with your evaluations.
Do U have some of Ur own?
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:
Do U have some of Ur own?
With normal attrition I think Axis would’ve persevered. Lost about 500 TUV on crap.
Like I said before, it’s not to degrade your effort. You are a very good player and put serious pressure on my position in multiple directions. Still, I feel that with dice rolling more according to probability, there could’ve been more counter-pressure.
Like when I lost 4 mech in Persia against 3 inf and 2 sb. You had 1,33 likely hits and hit 4. One of many examples. I counted on losing 1 or 2 mech and that made the difference of continuing to attack or the need to withdraw. And Japan in China and Pac was just insane on too many occasions to count.
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@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:
Do U have some of Ur own?
With normal attrition I think Axis would’ve persevered. Lost about 500 TUV on crap.
Like I said before, it’s not to degrade your effort. You are a very good player and put serious pressure on my position in multiple directions. Still, I feel that with dice rolling more according to probability, there could’ve been more counter-pressure.
Like when I lost 4 mech in Persia against 3 inf and 2 sb. You had 1,33 likely hits and hit 4. One of many examples. I counted on losing 1 or 2 mech and that made the difference of continuing to attack or the need to withdraw. And Japan in China and Pac was just insane on too many occasions to count.
Well I Can say the same just for sea battles. If it went on average, the axis would be broken sooner.
Thats the thing with dice, we must accept it.
The dice server is now pretty good comparing to previous years IMHO.
I was at times thinking to play LL but i didnt start to play that way, since there is no fun as, with dice.
Japan would last longer with better dice, but Japan wouldnt crack Chinese. The pressure in the Asian mainland after taking Korea was to huge IMHO.
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I’m not so sure. With say 15 more land units (income included) I think Japan would’ve cracked the Chinese no sweat. Korea is a tough nu, but with control in the south it could’ve been taken care of at an appropriate time. The problem was that I could never seriously threaten the key square of Yunnan.
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There were two or three big sea battles that went Germany’s way. Most of the small ones went the Allied way.
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Thats my problem maybe, i dont remember the small ones, i count its ‘normal’ to have any result when there is 2-3 units involved xd
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@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:
There were two or three big sea battles that went Germany’s way. Most of the small ones went the Allied way.
Yeah but in big ones tuv difference can be 100. In small one its 4 or 5. But yes 20 x 5 = 100.
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Like when I failed to take control of sz112 the first time with more than 80 % odds or you massacred me in sz6 with less than 20 % odds.
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@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:
Like when I failed to take control of sz112 the first time with more than 80 % odds or you massacred me in sz6 with less than 20 % odds.
I had a bunch of subs in sz 6 and a strategic/tactical advance.
But in was late in the game wouldnt change much.
As for sz 112 I forgot to place AC there.
And i had bad rolls there before, its nice i got it back (not the entire tuv minus but still much).And i ve rolled 5/5 there remember so u passed even ‘well’ as u could P
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My sub in sz25 had an amazing moment once. That’s it. 😉
Actually, I think the small ones are more sure. Atleast when you have +90 %. And I lost plenty of those.
With lots of dice almost anything can happen. Something which saved Germany’s ass atleast twice.
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@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:
My sub in sz25 had an amazing moment once. That’s it. 😉
Actually, I think the small ones are more sure. Atleast when you have +90 %. And I lost plenty of those.
With lots of dice almost anything can happen. Something which saved Germany’s ass atleast twice.
U can point that way, but its not the same to have 90% battle when u have units attackin on 4, and when u have those attacking at 2.
But nominally its 90%, but its unpredictable. -
@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:
My sub in sz25 had an amazing moment once. That’s it. 😉
Actually, I think the small ones are more sure. Atleast when you have +90 %. And I lost plenty of those.
With lots of dice almost anything can happen. Something which saved Germany’s ass atleast twice.
But maybe i also lost some small battles. Not as, u but did. I didnt look and count
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Don’t remember any ac. And the mistaken roll was a sorry situation.
Well, all in all a very well played game on your part. Would love to try it again. I’m not so sure of the validity of the all-out Chinese support, but perhaps I just lack rational insight.
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I think U played pretty well but that I played better enough to win the game. The dice overall helped, or not distrupt my effort i can say, but i think that my win is deserved, and if U pulled 8 vc in europe or 6 in the pacific it would be deserved too, since thats the catch in this game, the axis can win even if they are weaker, or almost down at one side of the board
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:
But maybe i also lost some small battles. Not as, u but did. I didnt look and count
You definitely lost some small battles. Especially with Russia. It happened with the Chinese. Stilm the ratio was about 9:1.
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@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:
Don’t remember any ac. And the mistaken roll was a sorry situation.
Well, all in all a very well played game on your part. Would love to try it again. I’m not so sure of the validity of the all-out Chinese support, but perhaps I just lack rational insight.
I wrote to u that i wanted to buy it and then redo the buy and forgot it
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Oh, I didn’t see that. Sorry. Would’ve contemplated it atleast.
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When was it? Before I hit sz112 the forst time and failed?
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@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:
Don’t remember any ac. And the mistaken roll was a sorry situation.
Well, all in all a very well played game on your part. Would love to try it again. I’m not so sure of the validity of the all-out Chinese support, but perhaps I just lack rational insight.
Well, i do not know too, but it worked in this game and i did not know U are an Elite player, with 5-1 win loss rating, so it was tested on a very strong opponent. But the thing is there was an element of surprise on my part which i would not have on any future battle with me as the allies against u
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