wizmark (A+12) vs DizzKneeLand33 (X) BM3 L20 Game 2

@nikola1975 said in L25 PtV Simon33 (Allies) vs Nikola1975 (Axis + 13):

@simon33 Yes, let’s see what we can make out of it. Haven’t played it in a long time; forgot about Manila scramble.

A small chance of keeping the plane alive.

@crockett36 This is the video about how to download for forum play.

@simon33

well, I read the game notes and there is a specific note about vichy france.

Fly-over restrictions applicable to other Neutral territories do not apply to Vichy French territory.

Unless I am missing something, Germany should have been able to fly over southern france. I do not see anywhere that just a US attacking SF, removes that restriction. It looks like a bug in the program unless there is a FAQ I am not aware of.

@mikawagunichi

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Game History

Round: 3 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Politics - Japanese Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese 1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Marianas to 22 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Guam 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 132 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 44 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 44 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 132 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 132 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao 2 infantry moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Manilla 2 infantry moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 marine moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Siam to 132 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 37 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Malaya 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Fukien to 21 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Celebes 2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to Davao 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Fukien to Manilla 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Fukien to Kwangtung 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Borneo 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan Combat - Japanese Battle in Guam Battle in 45 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport British defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the British lost in 45 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking Guam from Americans, taking 45 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 transport Battle in Java Japanese attack with 2 infantry and 1 marine British defend with 1 marine Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Java, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 marine in Java, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 marine owned by the British lost in Java Japanese win, taking Java from UK_Pacific with 2 infantry and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for British: 1 marine Battle in Borneo Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Borneo, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Borneo, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Borneo Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Kwangtung Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kwangtung, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 2.50 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangtung 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Battle in Manilla Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in Manilla, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Manilla, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Manilla, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Manilla Japanese win, taking Manilla from Americans with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Sumatra Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Sumatra, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Sumatra Japanese win, taking Sumatra from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Celebes Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Celebes, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Celebes, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Celebes 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Celebes Japanese win, taking Celebes from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in 42 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 42 Sea Zone Japanese win with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 battleship Battle in Davao Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Davao, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Davao, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Davao Japanese win, taking Davao from Americans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Malaya Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry British defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Malaya Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Inner Mongolia from Chinese to Japanese EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Inner Mongolia: 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Shansi: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Celebes to 43 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 1 bomber moved from Malaya to Kwangsi 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manilla to Fukien 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shansi 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China Japanese take French Indo China from Neutral_Axis 1 bomber moved from Borneo to Kwangsi 1 fighter moved from Borneo to Kwangsi Place Units - Japanese 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Japan 1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 56 PUs; end with 57 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.00 Americans regular : -0.67 Japanese regular : 1.17 UK_Pacific regular : -0.33 British regular : 0.33

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 15 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 5 artilleries, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 5 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Guam 1 armour, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma 1 bomber moved from Southern Persia to Burma Combat - Americans Americans creates battle in territory 7 Sea Zone Battle in Guam Battle in Burma Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Burma, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Burma Americans win, taking Guam from Japanese, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 7 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Midway 6 carriers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 94 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Burma to Eastern India 1 fighter moved from Southern Persia to Eastern Sinkiang 1 carrier moved from 94 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 94 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar 2 infantry moved from Central United States to 104 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from French Guiana to 90 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 90 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 battleship moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 4 submarines moved from 94 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan 1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Baluchistan to 82 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 83 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 100 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 4 carriers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Persia to Greece 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 marine moved from Albania to Greece 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece 1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 2 tactical_bombers moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 4 tactical_bombers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 7 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 7 Sea Zone to Midway 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 7 Sea Zone to Midway 2 submarines moved from 7 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 3 destroyers and 5 submarines moved from 7 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 2 destroyers moved from 31 Sea Zone to 53 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 31 Sea Zone to 53 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 31 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece Place Units - Americans 3 artilleries placed in Greece 1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 transport placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Iraq 2 infantry placed in Western United States 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Central United States 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States Americans undo move 7. 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States 2 fighters placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 7 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,2 Americans collect 63 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 63 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 78 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 93 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Combat - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Northern Sinkiang to Eastern Sinkiang Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Eastern Sinkiang Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 3 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 fighters and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British Non Combat Move - British 11 artilleries and 46 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma 2 aaGuns moved from Eastern India to Burma 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern India to Burma 3 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Baluchistan to Western India 1 cruiser moved from 94 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria 6 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Albania to Greece 1 artillery moved from Union of South Africa to 73 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 73 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 82 Sea Zone to 73 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 82 Sea Zone to Baluchistan 2 transports moved from 100 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Greece 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Persia to Eastern India 6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Persia to Iraq Place Units - British 2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Southern Persia 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Egypt 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 122 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1,2,2,3,1,1,2,3,5,4,2,4,3 British collect 34 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 34 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs Objective British 2 Southern Europe Beach Head: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 10 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Western United States: 2 fighters EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Eastern United States: 2 fighters EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 53 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 27 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0.83 Japanese regular : -0.33

Savegame

Delayed response but a few things I will add:

I completely disagree with Adam514’s attack on Normandy G2. What did the Axis get from this attack? Only 4IPC to Germany and the axis lost a lot of units defending it UK3. I can’t imagine I will be dissuaded from this point either. Normally, the only time I would recommend an attack on Normandy is when there is a sea lion. I actually also disagree the Italians taking it which allowed the ownership to go to USA rather than UK. Just because I disagree with Adam doesn’t mean I’m wrong. 101 attack has an expected value of +6.5TUV so on paper it is worthwhile. Biggest problem that I have with this calculation is that it ignores the effect of stripping subs from 110/111. To me, the main benefit of the US1 Brazil landing is getting the infantry sooner. To do what? I’m not sure, I don’t use this move. One game I played against Axis-Dominion he landed USA on Morocco for the +5 bonus US1. Skipping the Yunnan attack for the SZ37 attack, I’m not a fan of. I’m not a fan of the SZ37 attack straight up because it trades a Japanese Cruiser (at a minimum) for the UK BB and the UK BB can’t participate in a US attack on the Japanese fleet, to put it simply. Without the Yunnan inf bid I prefer to leave an inf in Kwangsi so the Allies can’t stop land units from reaching Yunnan J2 but that is just my preference. India fell J4 which means it was a naval take down. This did require 30IPC in facilities but then Adam also saved an mIC vs what I normally do, which I expect to take India mostly overland J5. Getting it 1 turn earlier meant another 8IPC and maybe he also saved UK from getting 2-3 more inf. Still, I used to do it a fair bit but now I’m not convinced it’s a good trade.

@farmboy said in L25 BM4 Playoffs Adam514 (Axis) vs farmboy (Allies+18):

This is the third time I’ve beaten Adam’s Axis. But its the first time I’ve won where I feel that the dice didn’t do most of the work for me.

Hmm, was a few years ago I went looking for a time Adam had gone down as Axis, didn’t find any. Were these games relatively recently or did I just miss one?

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 22

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 22 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 5 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 11 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 6 bombers moved from Western United States to Japan 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Hokkaido to Japan 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 5 Sea Zone to Japan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 7 Sea Zone to Japan 4 artilleries, 1 fighter, 11 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kyushu to Japan 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Manilla to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 7 Sea Zone to Japan 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to 7 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 2 carriers moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to 5 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Siberia to 5 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Amur to Sakha Russians take Sakha from Japanese 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from 7 Sea Zone to Japan 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Norway 1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Siam Americans take Siam from Japanese Combat - Americans Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 1 hits. Rolls: 2 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 7 Sea Zone Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits. Rolls: 4 Strategic bombing raid in Norway Germans roll AA dice in Norway : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Norway rolls: 7 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_minor Bombing raid in Norway causes 6 damage total. Battle in Japan Americans attack with 5 artilleries, 6 bombers, 5 fighters, 17 infantry, 2 marines and 3 tactical_bombers Japanese defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 3 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 1 harbour, 22 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Japanese roll AA dice in Japan : 1/6 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in Japan Americans roll dice for 5 artilleries, 5 bombers, 5 fighters, 17 infantry, 2 marines and 3 tactical_bombers in Japan, round 2 : 11/37 hits, 12.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 22 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Japan, round 2 : 13/29 hits, 10.67 expected hits 12 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 marine owned by the Americans lost in Japan 9 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 aaGuns owned by the Japanese lost in Japan Americans roll dice for 5 artilleries, 5 bombers, 5 fighters, 5 infantry, 1 marine and 3 tactical_bombers in Japan, round 3 : 10/24 hits, 10.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 13 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Japan, round 3 : 9/20 hits, 7.67 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the Americans and 4 artilleries owned by the Americans lost in Japan 10 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Japan Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 5 bombers, 5 fighters, 1 marine and 3 tactical_bombers in Japan, round 4 : 5/15 hits, 7.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Japan, round 4 : 3/10 hits, 4.33 expected hits 2 fighters owned by the Americans and 1 marine owned by the Americans lost in Japan 3 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 artilleries owned by the Japanese lost in Japan Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 5 bombers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in Japan, round 5 : 5/12 hits, 6.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in Japan, round 5 : 2/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits 2 bombers owned by the Americans lost in Japan 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese, 2 fighters owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Japan Americans captures 6PUs while taking Japanese capital Americans converts factory_major into different units Americans win, taking Japan from Japanese with 1 artillery, 3 bombers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -5 Casualties for Americans: 4 artilleries, 3 bombers, 2 fighters, 17 infantry and 2 marines Casualties for Japanese: 2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 22 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers triggerJapaneseDestroyPUsAmericans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to Japanese Non Combat Move - Americans 3 bombers moved from Japan to Kyushu 1 aaGun moved from Hokkaido to Japan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Kyushu 4 transports moved from 7 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Kwangtung 1 fighter moved from Japan to 37 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 7 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 21 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Norway to United Kingdom Place Units - Americans 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China 2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Central United States 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States 1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 104 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 72 PUs; end with 78 PUs Trigger Americans 10 Presence In Axis Capital: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 93 PUs Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 98 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 103 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 108 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 113 PUs Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 118 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 2 artilleries and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Trigger Chinese Guerilla Honan: Chinese has 1 infantry placed in Honan 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Shansi to Northern Manchuria 4 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from Shansi to Inner Mongolia Combat - Chinese Chinese creates battle in territory Honan Battle in Northern Manchuria Chinese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 5 infantry Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Japanese roll AA dice in Northern Manchuria : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Chinese lost in Northern Manchuria Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 5 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Northern Manchuria 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Northern Manchuria Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Northern Manchuria 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Northern Manchuria Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 4 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Northern Manchuria 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Northern Manchuria Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 5 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour in Northern Manchuria, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Northern Manchuria Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 6 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour in Northern Manchuria, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 7 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour in Northern Manchuria, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 8 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour in Northern Manchuria, round 8 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 9 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour in Northern Manchuria, round 9 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Northern Manchuria 1 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Northern Manchuria Chinese win, taking Honan from Japanese, taking Northern Manchuria from Japanese with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter and 5 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Inner Mongolia Chinese attack with 4 artilleries and 20 infantry Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 8 artilleries and 13 infantry Chinese roll dice for 4 artilleries and 20 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 5/24 hits, 5.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 8 artilleries and 13 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 9/21 hits, 7.00 expected hits 9 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Inner Mongolia 4 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Inner Mongolia Chinese roll dice for 4 artilleries and 11 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 3 : 6/15 hits, 3.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 8 artilleries and 9 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 3 : 6/17 hits, 5.67 expected hits 6 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Inner Mongolia 6 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Inner Mongolia Chinese roll dice for 4 artilleries and 5 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 4 : 5/9 hits, 2.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 8 artilleries and 3 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 4 : 5/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Inner Mongolia 3 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 artilleries owned by the Japanese lost in Inner Mongolia 4 artilleries owned by the Chinese retreated to Shansi Japanese win with 6 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8 Casualties for Chinese: 20 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 13 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shansi 10 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Hopei to Tsinghai 6 infantry moved from Hopei to Tsinghai 9 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from Hopei to Honan Place Units - Chinese 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Shansi 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Yunnan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 29 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 artillery, 6 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 armour moved from Iraq to Syria British take Syria from Italians 1 armour moved from Syria to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Tanganyika Territory to Kenya British take Kenya from Italians Combat - British Non Combat Move - British 3 carriers and 2 fighters moved from 40 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Eastern India to 74 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory 2 fighters moved from Eastern India to Iraq 4 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Iraq 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Baluchistan to Southern Persia 1 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India 1 infantry moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns and 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns, 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns and 2 infantry moved from 89 Sea Zone to French West Africa Place Units - British 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Iraq 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom 2 submarines placed in 73 Sea Zone 2 infantry placed in Southern Persia Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 100 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4,5,3 British collect 32 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 32 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 2.00 Americans regular : -6.50 Japanese regular : 3.83 Japanese AA : 0.83 Germans AA : -0.17

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