Axis and Allies "Classic" 2nd Edition - x2 Player Aids

Hello,
It is the US’s turn. We are still on turn 1, so the US is the last to go. My mother is Germany and I, Japan. I tried to go into China but got extremely unlucky with no rolls. I did take Pearl Harbor though. What should we, Axis, do next. My original goal was to take China here and fortify. Then I would finish US there and expand west, while also maintaining strong East. Not sure how I can do that now, though. Help.

IPCs

US: 36

U.S.S.R: 24

Germany: 35

Britain: 29

Japan: 27

I can offer a really useful and detailed response for classic (2nd ed.), but I haven’t played First Edition. Are the two similar enough that a 2nd edition example would be helpful?

@MeinFuhrer:

Played thrice now and have won them all as axis.  Seems a lot easier to win as Axis in this version.

If your playing a no RR game with a 0 bid and winning as Axis your Allies player is not very good (no disrespect intended).

Barring a total collaps of the dice I wouldn’t lose as Allies in a traditional no RR 3rd Edition game. It favors the Allies, most of the time I would give a bid of 18-20 depending on my opponent in a standard 3rd ED no RR.

If you playing no RR……

Round 1:

USSR hits Ukr with 6inf/2tnk/1ftr and roll it until Ukr is dead but do NOT lose the USSR fighter. Send 1 Ftr/Sub on the German Sub/Tranny. If you only hit 1 retreat the sub back to the North Sea (assuming Germany misses). If you clear them both its a bonus. Some people will hit Manch with 6 Inf/1Tnk. I chose not to. If this goes bad your going to get steam rolled on the back side by Japan. I stack Yak with 6 and put 1 Inf/1Tnk Novo. If all goes well you sink the German tanny/sub and take Ukraine with 2-3 ground. This forces Germany to hit the North Sea with only 1 cover ship (the sub of WE) and the remaining 4 ftrs/1bmr. Its to risky for them to try and send 1 plane after the UK tranny in the Lab. This weakens the hit on the North Sea and Germanys likely to lose more planes. They also have to deal with your forces in Ukr. Those USSR units, normally tanks, cannot be left alive. With the German Air committed to the North Sea Germany will likely be forced to use 1-2 tanks on that counter hit.

In a normal game (barring any oddities in the dice) Germany is down 1-2 planes at the conclusion of its turn R1. The rest is just adjusting and reacting to how the game unfolds.

If your playing with Technology…dont buy ANY IC’s with Japan. This opens you up to strat bombs by Heavy Bmrs. If you only have your original Capital the Allies can not reach with without LRA+HB. Buy 1-2 tranny per turn until your at 10+. Round 1 buy for Japan should ALWAYS be 2 Tranny 3  Inf. Sink Hawaii, Sink Hawaii, Sink Hawaii…use BB, Sub, Ftr, Bmr and kill China. Anything else and your taking risk and thinning out your other battles. Hawaii and China, be done, non combat move and place units.

I am currently deployed overseas and I am playing 1942 1ED. The classic version is much different…faster paced and harder for the Axis

note: I say I give bids of 18-20, the club I play in you have to state your placement with the bid (I.E. 20=2 men EE, 3 Men Libya, Tank Kwang).

Agreed.  I have started 3 games of Revised.  The first just to check things out, the second my horrid showing against Trihero on Round 1, and my second a Turn 8 resignation as the Axis (in a no-bid game).

Revised has a far greater number of strategies available.  Is definitely better than Classic (saying a lot from someone with nearly 2 decades of the original under my belt).

I understand your desire to try new things.  That is why I did the Alternate Japan Naval Strats thread last month :-)  The main difference between yours and mine is pulling a higher number of your trannies away from Asia early on while I relied on just 1 tranny, and that only to get the Imperial Navy into the Atlantic via Panama.  Everything else stayed on the Russia push in order to get that stack of INF and Tanks to Russia ASAP.

Now If I can only figure out how to get Germany into Karelia and still have some good “punch” left on G5 or 6…

I know this is an old old thread, but being a new guy on the board I’m still curious: how many players do you usually have at the table per game? Or are you playing mostly one-on-one TripleA?

Our group is lucky enough to do a full table of 5-6 players once every month or two, with varying skill levels throughout. I think that might be exceptional?

Yrs.,
R.

If anything you have more of the Axis and Allies pieces and chips than I do :D .

@you:

NO it doesnt!!! when a battleship gets an attack during an amphibous landing, the unit it destroys, if it succeds (and there is a 66% chance of that) the unit gets no retaliation at all!!! at least those are the rules that came with the board game, apparently everyone around here is accustomed to changing he rules. also, the battleship is not involved in battle so it cannot be destroyed. it shoots ground cover for the freighters and the amphibious landers.

well, you’re right in your last sentance.
and kind of right in your second-to-last sentance (although Hasbro/Avalon Hill does make some suggestions for “evening out the playing field”. As for your first 2 statements - they’re wrong, although i’m curious as to which version of the game you received this rule with.