FMERommel (X) vs ArtofWar1947 (L) BM3 19L

FMErwinRommel

Germ built the CV to defend the approach to Baltic. Was pleasantly surprised that I had the chance to use it indirectly offensively. Attack odds in sz91 were 70% with the added planes. I thought it was worth the gamble. Even though no transports, it would eliminate most allied DD’s and weaken UK fleet, reducing odds of UK threatening Baltic.

FMErwinRommel

One more edit coming, Germ bomber in Pacific.

ArtofWar1947

@FMErwinRommel
The UK sub submerged?
Max defense would mean taking out the lowest powered unit first to preserve a stronger unit.

ArtofWar1947

@ArtofWar1947

The UK Sub (not the CV) should have taken the German sub hit in the first round, because the latter were not going to survive and the UK sub cannot hit aircraft and vice versa. When making a decision for an opponent, the goal is to do what is in the best interest of the opponent. Basically, taking the hit on the UK sub would have saved the Allies 1 hit from attacking air and given them the opportunity to hit the attacking air.

FMErwinRommel

I chose the CV because it was the max defense default in the battle calc and I didn’t think about the implication. Then on round 2, UK sub submerged because it couldn’t hit. There is a way to roll dice in the forum so the result can be shown. Your sub would have sunk in R1 and a U.S. DD survives to fire in R2 and sinks in R2 instead of a U.S. fighter, which gets to fire in R3. Germ got 6 hits in R3, so no R4. Roll for DD at power of 2 for one round and fighter at 4 for one round. Can you do that, as I never learned how. Then I will reduce my bombers by any hits.

ArtofWar1947

@FMErwinRommel

I chose the CV because it was the max defense default in the battle calc and I didn’t think about the implication. Then on round 2, UK sub submerged because it couldn’t hit.
///A hit to tilt a CV (or BB) usually makes sense in a max defense. I use to automatically did so until Axis Dominion tutored me about situations where a better defense was possible.
There is a way to roll dice in the forum so the result can be shown. Your sub would have sunk in R1 and a U.S. DD survives to fire in R2 and sinks in R2 instead of a U.S. fighter, which gets to fire in R3. Germ got 6 hits in R3, so no R4. Roll for DD at power of 2 for one round and fighter at 4 for one round. Can you do that, as I never learned how. Then I will reduce my bombers by any hits.
///Given that all the German bombers hit in R3, the resolution you propose is fair. I’ll try to roll dice on the Forum to see if the Dice Roller is working again.

ArtofWar1947

@ArtofWar1947

:aaa 1@2 1@4:

ArtofWar1947

@ArtofWar1947

Well, I either the dice roller is still not working, the format has changed, or I did something wrong.

Let me set up a sim battle involving a US DD and F (and German bombers). We’ll use the Ally rolls only.

ArtofWar1947

@ArtofWar1947

Marti notification indicates that the 2 missed (rolled 3); the 4 hit (rolled 2).

Will edit out 1 German bomber.

ArtofWar1947

@ArtofWar1947

Apparently, you also need to edit the German bomber in Pacific?

If so, let me know what you want done, I can do the edit along with the other.

Alternatively, you can do the two edits and repost G-26.

FMErwinRommel

Sorry for messing that up. Don’t normally have sea battles with that combo of units. Okay, please remove UK sub from sz91, Germ bomber from Normandy and edit Germ bomber out of Phil into Japan. Thanks for taking care of this.

ArtofWar1947

@FMErwinRommel

No problem. Exceptions to the typical max-defense choices are not obvious.

Will make the edits outlined.

ArtofWar1947

@ArtofWar1947
Apparently, I forgot to bring the ANZAC sub in SZ 31 and the ANZAC fighter on Wake Island back into the fold. With your permission, I would like to edit them out of unnecessary danger.

FMErwinRommel

Fine with me, move the ANZAC units. The Allied move presents Japan will a range of options to redeploy to face the new situation.

ArtofWar1947

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 28

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 28

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians

    Combat - Russians

    Place Units - Russians
        3 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 3 PUs; end with 3 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 5 PUs
        Trigger Russians 5 Persia Lend Lease Lane War With Japan: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 7 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

FMErwinRommel

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 28

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 28

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese repair damage of 4x harbour; Remaining resources: 90 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
        Japanese buy 6 destroyers and 7 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 submarine moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
        8 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Japanese creates battle in territory 37 Sea Zone
        Battle in Dutch New Guinea
        Battle in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 submarine and 8 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking 37 Sea Zone from ANZAC, taking Dutch New Guinea from ANZAC, taking 42 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 submarine and 8 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 58 Sea Zone to 73 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 41 Sea Zone to 75 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
        1 fighter moved from Sikang to Tsinghai
        4 infantry moved from Shan State to French Indo China
        7 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
        3 fighters moved from Guam to Japan
        1 submarine moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        3 carriers, 3 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Celebes to 45 Sea Zone
        4 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
        3 carriers, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        8 tactical_bombers moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        6 destroyers and 4 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
        3 submarines placed in 36 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 80 PUs; end with 80 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 83 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs
        Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 93 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans : -0.33
Japanese : 0.67

Savegame

FMErwinRommel

If you decide to attack Europe where there are AA guns, please ask for OOL before rolling. Thanks.

FMErwinRommel

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 28

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 28

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese repair damage of 4x harbour; Remaining resources: 90 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
        Japanese buy 6 destroyers and 7 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 submarine moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
        8 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Japanese creates battle in territory 37 Sea Zone
        Battle in Dutch New Guinea
        Battle in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 submarine and 8 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking 37 Sea Zone from ANZAC, taking Dutch New Guinea from ANZAC, taking 42 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 submarine and 8 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 58 Sea Zone to 73 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 41 Sea Zone to 75 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
        1 fighter moved from Sikang to Tsinghai
        4 infantry moved from Shan State to French Indo China
        7 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
        3 fighters moved from Guam to Japan
        1 submarine moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        3 carriers, 3 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Celebes to 45 Sea Zone
        4 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
        3 carriers, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        8 tactical_bombers moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        6 destroyers and 4 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
        3 submarines placed in 36 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 80 PUs; end with 80 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 83 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs
        Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 93 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Yunnan: 1 armour
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to French Indo China: 1 armour
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans : -0.33
Japanese : 0.67

Savegame

FMErwinRommel

Forgot a NCM. Edited tank from Yunnan > FIC

ArtofWar1947

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 28

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 28

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        6 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
        6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 16 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
        Americans creates battle in territory 97 Sea Zone
        Battle in 97 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 5 submarines
            Germans defend with 1 submarine
            1 submarine owned by the Germans Submerged
                Americans roll dice for 5 submarines in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
        Battle in 16 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 bomber, 12 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
            Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 12 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 8/15 hits, 8.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 16 Sea Zone
            Americans winAmericans win with 5 submarines remaining with 1 bomber, 12 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 carrier, 4 destroyers and 3 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 bomber, 12 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 16 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 bomber moved from Western United States to Morocco
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
        3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Morocco
        8 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
        2 bombers moved from West India to Iraq

    Place Units - Americans
        1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
        1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer placed in 101 Sea Zone
        2 fighters placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs
        Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 67 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 3 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 airfield, 8 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 119 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 119 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
        1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Iraq to Caucasus
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Persia to Caucasus
        1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        5 fighters moved from West India to 80 Sea Zone

    Combat - British
        Battle in Caucasus
            British attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Caucasus, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
            British win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in 80 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 destroyer and 5 fighters
            Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 5 fighters in 80 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 80 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 80 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 destroyer and 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
        Battle in 119 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
            Germans defend with 1 submarine
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 119 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 119 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 119 Sea Zone
            British win, taking 119 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - British
        4 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
        1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to Sicily
        1 fighter moved from Egypt to Sicily
        2 fighters moved from Caucasus to Persia
        1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Caucasus to Iraq
        5 fighters moved from 80 Sea Zone to West India
        1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to West India
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Persia
        3 artilleries moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Iraq
        1 fighter moved from 119 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        1 bomber moved from 119 Sea Zone to Gibraltar

    Place Units - British
        1 airfield placed in Sicily
        3 mech_infantrys placed in Persia
        3 infantry placed in Iraq
        British undo move 2.
        1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Persia
        1 mech_infantry placed in Egypt
        2 infantry placed in United Kingdom
        2 infantry placed in Egypt

    Turn Complete - British
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,2,6,4
        British collect 38 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 38 PUs
        Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 41 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 44 PUs
        Objective British 2 Southern Europe Beach Head: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 47 PUs

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from United Kingdom: 3 bombers
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Gibraltar: 3 bombers
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -0.83
British : -0.67
Americans : -0.00
Japanese : 0.50

Savegame

FMERommel (X) vs ArtofWar1947 (L) BM3 19L

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 28

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 28

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