ArtofWar1947 (Allies+6) vs Simon33 (Axis) BM3

@nikola1975 said in L25 PtV Simon33 (Allies) vs Nikola1975 (Axis + 13):

@simon33 Yes, let’s see what we can make out of it. Haven’t played it in a long time; forgot about Manila scramble.

A small chance of keeping the plane alive.

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@simon33

well, I read the game notes and there is a specific note about vichy france.

Fly-over restrictions applicable to other Neutral territories do not apply to Vichy French territory.

Unless I am missing something, Germany should have been able to fly over southern france. I do not see anywhere that just a US attacking SF, removes that restriction. It looks like a bug in the program unless there is a FAQ I am not aware of.

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 10

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 10 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 2 infantry moved from Marshall Islands to 32 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 17 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima Combat - ANZAC Battle in Iwo Jima Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 22 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone Place Units - ANZAC 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 15 PUs Combat Move - French 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 81 Sea Zone to 77 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to West India 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt Non Combat Move - French Turn Complete - French

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Delayed response but a few things I will add:

I completely disagree with Adam514’s attack on Normandy G2. What did the Axis get from this attack? Only 4IPC to Germany and the axis lost a lot of units defending it UK3. I can’t imagine I will be dissuaded from this point either. Normally, the only time I would recommend an attack on Normandy is when there is a sea lion. I actually also disagree the Italians taking it which allowed the ownership to go to USA rather than UK. Just because I disagree with Adam doesn’t mean I’m wrong. 101 attack has an expected value of +6.5TUV so on paper it is worthwhile. Biggest problem that I have with this calculation is that it ignores the effect of stripping subs from 110/111. To me, the main benefit of the US1 Brazil landing is getting the infantry sooner. To do what? I’m not sure, I don’t use this move. One game I played against Axis-Dominion he landed USA on Morocco for the +5 bonus US1. Skipping the Yunnan attack for the SZ37 attack, I’m not a fan of. I’m not a fan of the SZ37 attack straight up because it trades a Japanese Cruiser (at a minimum) for the UK BB and the UK BB can’t participate in a US attack on the Japanese fleet, to put it simply. Without the Yunnan inf bid I prefer to leave an inf in Kwangsi so the Allies can’t stop land units from reaching Yunnan J2 but that is just my preference. India fell J4 which means it was a naval take down. This did require 30IPC in facilities but then Adam also saved an mIC vs what I normally do, which I expect to take India mostly overland J5. Getting it 1 turn earlier meant another 8IPC and maybe he also saved UK from getting 2-3 more inf. Still, I used to do it a fair bit but now I’m not convinced it’s a good trade.

@farmboy said in L25 BM4 Playoffs Adam514 (Axis) vs farmboy (Allies+18):

This is the third time I’ve beaten Adam’s Axis. But its the first time I’ve won where I feel that the dice didn’t do most of the work for me.

Hmm, was a few years ago I went looking for a time Adam had gone down as Axis, didn’t find any. Were these games relatively recently or did I just miss one?

I agree 100%.

I felt good about the Europe side. My problem was my original plan was to split China and India at Yunnan and your move to DOW on UK2 totally eliminated that plan.

My revised plan was to go for India but as you said I quickly realized that meant the US was going to go wild. That forced me to take the 72% battle in Belarus that normally I would have ignored. Unfortunately, I went 4 units under average which put me in a position of status quo. I wasn’t behind, but I also wasn’t ahead, which was not good since I was in trouble in the Pacific.

Thus, when you accidentally gave me an 85% battle to knock out Yunnan I couldn’t pass up that opportunity. Unfortunately, for me, you won instead of me and given the rest of the board position the game as over.

Looking at the game via a debrief perspective, your plan was better than my plan. Because of that I was forced to take battles that relied on fair dice to get back into the game. With your mistake in Yunnan I easily could have got back into the game. But, the dice didn’t cooperate, which is why I always try to have a plan that doesn’t depend on fair dice.

Thanks again for the game. As always you learn more from losing than from winning. :)

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Game History

Round: 5 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from Queensland to 20 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from India to 43 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 98 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in 43 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber Japanese defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 43 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Battle in 98 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 fighter Italians defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Italians: 1 transport Battle in 20 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber Japanese defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 20 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Non Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from 20 Sea Zone to Guam 1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 armour moved from Algeria to Morocco 2 mech_infantrys moved from Tunisia to Morocco 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 bomber moved from Western United States to Queensland 2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 fighter moved from Queensland to Java 1 bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 2 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands Place Units - Americans 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone 2 fighters placed in Western United States 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Central United States 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States Americans undo move 1. Americans undo move 1. 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone Americans undo move 5. 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar Chinese take Chahar from Japanese Combat - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 5 infantry placed in Szechwan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 11 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 airfield, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to Alexandria 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from India to Yunnan 2 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from West India to 79 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 79 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra Combat - British Battle in Alexandria British attack with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Italians defend with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry British roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 2/10 hits, 3,17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 3,50 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the British lost in Alexandria 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Alexandria British roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Alexandria, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 2,50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Alexandria, round 3 : 2/8 hits, 2,83 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Alexandria 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Alexandria 1 bomber owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British retreated 2 artilleries owned by the British retreated to Egypt Italians win with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10 Casualties for British: 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry Battle in Yunnan British attack with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan British roll dice for 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Yunnan, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan British win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for British: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Sumatra British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Sumatra British roll dice for 1 artillery in Sumatra, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery in Sumatra, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sumatra British win, taking Sumatra from Japanese with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 armour moved from West India to India 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Alexandria to Egypt 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Egypt 1 tactical_bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar Place Units - British 2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 81 Sea Zone 1 airfield placed in Egypt Turn Complete - British British collect 31 PUs; end with 34 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,4 UK_Pacific collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -1,00 Italians regular : -0,33 British regular : -2,33

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 2 armour, 1 bomber and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Caucasus Combat - Italians Battle in Caucasus Italians attack with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 2 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys in Caucasus, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 2,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus Italians win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Rostov 1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Rostov 3 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine 3 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Romania 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 5 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia 1 artillery moved from Algeria to Tunisia Place Units - Italians 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 21 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 2,33 Russians regular : -0,67

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