A&A 1940 Global 2nd Edition - Setup Charts and Components List

Why is this setup for Japan (for example) so different than the out of box setup for Japan?

@BobbyZAvi
Welcome to the forum :slightly_smiling_face:
Are there any typos by @Young-Grasshopper ?
Please state them and we can correct that.

I’ll only post the “corrections,” not each individual set up. In my box set up, it states these differences between the YG’s list:

Japan- 8 infantry, 5 fighters, 4 tac bombers
Korea- 1 infantry, 0 fighters
Manchuria- 4 infantry, 3 fighters, 1 strategic bomber
Shantung- 1 infantry, 0 artillery
Kiangsu- 1 tac bomber, 0 fighters
Caroline Islands- 1 infantry
SZ19- 1 cruiser, 0 battleships, 0 transports
SZ33- 1 battleship, 1 transport

Western US- 3 infantry, 1 tank, 1 strategic bomber, 1 tac bomber
Hawaii- 1 fighter, 1 strategic bomber, 1 tac bomber
Philippines- 1 strategic bomber
Central US- 1 mech infantry, 0 tanks, 1 Major IC
Eastern US- 0 AAA guns, 1 Major IC
SZ26- 0 subs, 0 destroyer, 0 cruiser
SZ35- 0 subs, 1 transport
SZ101- 0 cruiser, 1 destroyer

Hunan- 1 infantry
Kweichow- 1 infantry
Szechwan- 4 infantry
Yunnan- 3 infantry

India- 4 infantry, 3 fighters,
Burma- 1 infantry
Malaya- 4 infantry
SZ37- 2 transports
SZ39- 0 transports

New South Wales- 1 infantry, Major IC
SZ47- 1 sub
SZ63- 0 ships

Denmark- 1 infantry
Greater S Germany- 1 artillery, 2 tanks
Germany- 6 infantry, 4 artillery, 1 AAA, 1 strategic bomber, 0 tac bombers
Holland/Belgium- 1 artillery
Norway- 2 infantry
Poland- 0 tac bombers
Slovakia/Hungary- 0 fighters
SZ113- 1 cruiser, 1 transport
SZ114- 0 ships

Russia- 2 infantry, 1 AAA gun
Novgorod- 1 AAA gun
Caucasus- 1 infantry
E. Poland- 3 infantry
Vyborg- 2 infantry
SZ115- 1 battleship, 1 transport, 0 cruisers, 0 subs

Alexandria- 1 fighter
Egypt- 0 mechs
France- 1 infantry
Gibraltar- 0 fighters, 1 Air Base
Ontario- 0 artillery
Quebec- 1 tank, 0 artillery
Scotland- empty
UK- 1 infantry, 0 mech infantry, 3 fighters, 0 strategic bomber, 0 AAA guns, 1 Naval Base

Ethiopia- 0 artillery
Libya- 2 infantry, 0 artillery
Tobruk- 4 infantry, 2 mech infantry
N Italy- 0 strategic bomber, 1 fighter, 0 AAA guns, 1 Air Base
S Italy- 2 infantry, 1 AAA gun, 1 fighter
SZ95- 0 subs, 0 transport, 1 battleship
SZ96- 0 ships
SZ97- 1 destroyer, 0 battleships

France- 0 AAA guns
Normandy/Bordeaux- 0 artillery
S France- 0 IC

Now… there’s a good chance I don’t have the right version, I got mine in 2011 and it’s the 2010 versions of Axis and Allies Pacific and Europe. If there’s been a rulebook revision since then I’m just wasting my time :)

@Young-Grasshopper yup, I must not have second edition… I’m sorry!!! Definitely wasted my time typing that out then 🤣🤣🤣

@Young-Grasshopper I sincerely apologize for that dude… my bad

@BobbyZAvi
Indeed, 2nd Edition was issued in 2012 and superseded 1st edition.
Anyway now that you know that enjoy discovering the changes that came with 2nd edtion .
Have fun :slightly_smiling_face:

@Panther does the 2nd edition set up strengthen or weaken Japan? It ‘feels’ like they’re weaker in the revision. Anyone test play this?

@BobbyZAvi
It is not only the setup that has changed, but many aspects of the ruleset as well. Consider 2nd edition as being a different game. Just download and read the rulebooks and you will see.

The further development of the rules started back in late 2010 with the so-called Alpha rulesets, that were the predecessors of the 2nd ed. rules.

@Panther I found the 2nd edition PDFs, I’ll take a look! Thanks!!

@Young-Grasshopper I know this is not related to the setup by my calculations the U.K (Europe side) should have 29 IPC’s

@Dylan-Johnson said in A&A 1940 Global 2nd Edition - Setup Charts and Components List:

@Young-Grasshopper I know this is not related to the setup by my calculations the U.K (Europe side) should have 29 IPC’s

28 for UK Europe and 17 for UK Pacific is correct according to the rulebook(s) and because of:
“The Pacific economy includes all of the territories controlled by United Kingdom on the Pacific map. Calcutta is its regional capital. There are two exceptions to this regional division. West India, on the Europe map, is part of the Pacific economy, and the North American territories on the Pacific map are part of the Europe economy.”

@Panther Ok, but from what i see on the Second Edition board U.K Europe has 8 IPC’s earned in Mainland Europe, 6 in North America, 12 in Africa and 3 for Asia. (just Trans Jordan and West India) If we add this up we get 29 IPC’s not 28 IPC’s

@Dylan-Johnson said in A&A 1940 Global 2nd Edition - Setup Charts and Components List:

@Panther Ok, but from what i see on the Second Edition board U.K Europe has 8 IPC’s earned in Mainland Europe, 6 in North America, 12 in Africa and 3 for Asia. (just Trans Jordan and West India) If we add this up we get 29 IPC’s not 28 IPC’s

@Panther just said, in part: “West India, on the Europe map, is part of the Pacific economy”. If you add up 8 for Europe, 6 in North American, 12 in Africa, and 2 for Asia (2 for Trans Jordan and 0 for West India, as West India is a part of the UK Pacific economy in the Global game), that does indeed add up to 28.

-Midnight_Reaper

@Midnight_Reaper Wait I’m confused, Trans-Jordan is worth 2 IPC’s I only see it worth 1 on my map, and I thought that West India was shared between the Europe and Pacific Economies

Hi Dylan

yea Trans-Jordan is only a buck. West India doesn’t get split. All dough goes to India.

@barnee Ok now that that has been settled how does U.K London get 28 not 27 as 8+6+12+1 is 27

@Dylan-Johnson said in A&A 1940 Global 2nd Edition - Setup Charts and Components List:

@barnee Ok now that that has been settled how does U.K London get 28 not 27 as 8+6+12+1 is 27

Because, as @Panther already said: “There are two exceptions to this regional division. West India, on the Europe map, is part of the Pacific economy, and the North American territories on the Pacific map are part of the Europe economy.”

The relevant part has been bolded for emphasis. In exchange for giving West India (and its 2 IPCs) to the UK Pacific side of the board, UK Pacific give UK Europe Western Canada (and its 1 IPC). So the North American money for UK Europe is not 6, it’s 7. 8+7+12+1=28.

-M_R

@Midnight_Reaper alright now that makes sense