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Round 9: Ge. builds sub., 2 trooper, gun, mech. infantry, &, 2 tanks. N. Italy is reinforce by units from W. Germany & Germany, also fighter lands in Denmark. Moves garrison from N. Italy, &, tank from S. Germany, to retake S. Italy. Bomber, 3 troopers, gun, &, 2 tanks, versus, British fighter, &, US 3 tanks. Only GE bomber which lands in N. Italy & 2 tanks survive, S. Italy is retaken!

Forces from W. Germany & Denmark try to retake Belgium, 4 troopers, mech. infantry, 2 guns, 2 tanks, &, fighter, versus, British 3 troopers, gun, &, 2 tanks. Losses GE. gun, &, 3 troopers, &, Allies all.

Fighter & T.B attack Norway(no losses due to A.A. gun), destroy U.S. fighter & tank(all Axis air lost). Losses IPCs GE. 47, U.S. 34, &, British 35.

U.S.A. builds 3 tanks for Norway, 3 more tanks in Libya, bomber & fighter & T.B. & trooper & gun and transport in East Coast. Transport from off S. Italy goes back to East Coast, while another goes to Libya to pick up 2 tanks to land them in S. Italy, while a third goes to off Libya. Sub. joins U.S. fleet in Med. Sea. Damaged BB & C shells, with fighter from Libya and two tanks landed, versus, 2 GE. tanks. Losses U.S. fighter & all GE. tanks, S. Italy falls again!

Off Norway C & transport with trooper & gun arrive, while another transport leaves East Coast for Norway with trooper & tank, &, fighter arrives in Iceland. Also a transport arrives off London with Canadian trooper. US fleet attacks Ge. 2 subs. and destroys it(for damaged BB & lost DD). Landed tank into Denmark takes out AA gun & fighter(tank is lost), Denmark still Axis controlled.

Losses IPCs U.S. 24, &, GE. 44.

British Empire builds Minor Industrial Complex in Egypt, in U.K. 2 troopers, gun, transport, &, fighter. Mech. Infantry leaves S. Africa for Egypt, transport off Rome picks up trooper & Mech. Infantry from Libya & Alexandria, and, debarks them as reinforcements in S. Italy. Another transport heads for U.K. from off Sardinia.

Transport from U.K. drops a trooper in undefended Denmark, it is taken! The transport joins two other transports in landings in Belgium(along with Canadian trooper debarking from U.S. transport), of 2 tanks, mech. infantry, trooper & gun, &, T.B. from U.K., versus, GE. trooper, mech. infantry, gun, &, 2 tanks. BB & C shell, T.B. from U.K. & landed forces attack, &, all GE. forces wiped put, Belgium is retaken(for a lost of 2 troopers). IPCs lost British 6, &, GE. 23.

Italy cannot build, has no forces left.

Round Ten: Ge. is by herself, with a puppet state of N. Italy which has become an expensive luxury to own & garrison, her inner allies Romania, Hungary, &, annex Austria have no garrisons in them(much less S. Germany). Only W. GE. & Germany with Poland have land garrisons. Except for the first round already played for the players(the phony war & Fall of France), this game has 11 more rounds maximum, to get the game from 1940-1945 era(roughly six months a turn). Lets see if GE. can last two more rounds(ten & eleven), especially with no navy, &, only a bomber for air power.

So far from one to two, then three & four areas under Allied control, with some retaking of theses areas, only to lose them again. GE. is finding it harder & harder to make up for lost units, perhaps peace may come before the end of the round.

GE. builds sub., fighter, 2 tanks, &, 2 troopers. With an Mech. Infantry from W. Germany, forces in N. Italy try to retake S. Italy, with 2 troopers, 3 mech. Infantry, &, a bomber, versus, Allies U.S. 2 tanks, and, British trooper & Mech. Infantry. Losses GE. all but a Mech. Infantry that retreated, &, Allies all British. IPCs lost GE. 26 & British 7. Previously forces from W. GE. & Germany send forces to help garrison N. Italy.

Forces from W. GE. & Germany try to retake Belgium, tank, trooper & gun, versus, British mech. infantry & gun. Losses GE. gun(4 IPCs) & all British (8IPCS), Belgium retaken!

Finally a tank tries to retake Denmark defended by British trooper(lost British 3 IPCs). Unfortunately they are such few survivors cannot the Allies easily retake these areas or not.

U.S.A. builds … From Iceland & East Coast a fighter & bomber arrive in Norway, along with a fighter & TB from East Coast flying to Gibraltar. Along with a transport arriving off Scotland with trooper & tank, also a transport from East Coast heading for Med. Sea. Finally a transport arrives to East Coast.

US fleet off Norway attacks defending sub. off W. GE. & GE., with sub. destroyed for no lost. Still by fighting the sub. in combat, the BB cannot shell & DD does not participate in shelling. Landed 3 tanks, with a C & transport of Sea Zone #125 landing a trooper & gun, versus, defending GE. 4 troopers, gun, &, tank. Losses all both sides, Germany still holding out, but, undefended! IPCs lost U.S. 25 & GE. 30. What a difference if the BB & C could have shelled, the lost GE sub. really paid off.

Transport off Libya, &, transport off Italy moves to Libya & picks up 3 tanks, &, lands them in N. Italy(also from S. Italy 2 tanks move up to N. Italy). Five tanks versus GE. trooper, gun, mech. infantry & tank(BB & C shell with the latter scoring a hit). N. Italy falls, all Axis wiped out(17 IPCs) & US lost 2 tanks(12 IPCS).

British Empire builds in U.K., fighter, 2 troopers, 2 guns, &, 3 tanks. From Congo Mech. Infantry arrives in Cairo. Transport leaves Med. Sea heads for U.K. Two transports escorted by DD, leave U.K. and land in undefended Germany 3 tanks & trooper. Berlin(and its 33 unspent IPCs) is taken! Fighter from U.K. destroys only defender in Denmark a GE. tank(fighter lost also). BB & C shell & TB from U.K. bombs & landed trooper & gun attack, destroys defending tank & trooper in Belgium(for lost of TB & gun). Belgium is freed! IPCs lost British 25, &, GE. 15. GE. has lost half of their remaining tanks.

Italy is knocked out of the war in last round, &, last province of N. Italy has been lost this round.

Round Eleven: GE. cannot build, lost capital & funds. Third Reich will try to retake Germany, to cut a better deal with the Allies, from W. GE. & Poland the attack begins. Four troopers, gun, mech. infantry, tank, &, fighter, versus, British trooper & 3 tanks, all losses both sides, GE. still in Allied hands. IPCS lost GE. 39 & British 21.

Left undefended W. & s. Germany, Poland, &, minor allies of Romania & Hungary. Major victory for Allies, with Poland freed(at least the western part of it), with a hair’s breath of a partial successful Operation Sea Lion in the first rounds. IPCs lost Axis 862 & Allies 777.
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@Matt-Hyra Alright, Thank you for letting me know!

in my table top test of Anniversary edition, which I just got, i have only needed the battleboard a few times, when units greater than 10 on attack and defense.
It’s interesting how bad dice rolls can doom a larger attack force and reshape the game drastically. In this game the dominant countries have each had a really bad turn of dice rolls change their fate. Another thing for dice is the technology rolls, so far, only 1 country has one and many many IPUs were spent trying to get them, which also affected the games early stages for Germany.

@Cernel said in Some cases of transport-related rules across "Axis & Allies" games from Classic to the most recent ones:

@Krieghund said in Some cases of transport-related rules across "Axis & Allies" games from Classic to the most recent ones:

@Cernel Cases 1 and 2 are legal in versions up to and including Revised OOB, but not legal in Revised LHTR or later. Cases 3 through 5 are not legal in any version.

Even though you stated
@Krieghund said in Some cases of transport-related rules across "Axis & Allies" games from Classic to the most recent ones:

@Cernel Forget what I said here to the contrary, and go with the prior rulings. I have edited my above answers in accordance with this.

I’ve seen that you have not yet edited this post.

Does this mean that, in this case, you stand by this latest clarification of yours (which should be taken as prevalent)?

No. I did not edit the post because I amended this answer in a later post in this thread (which was made before I edited the posts).

So, summarizing, it seems that, to my first two cases at the first post of this topic, specifically
@Cernel said in Some cases of transport-related rules across "Axis & Allies" games from Classic to the most recent ones:

A transport has one or two units already on board at the start of the turn, does not load any more units, moves into a hostile sea zone during the same turn and does not offload any units during Combat Move, partakes to a successful sea battle without being removed and offloads any number of its cargo into an own or allied territory during the subsequent Non-Combat Move phase.

A transport has one or two units already on board at the start of the turn, starts the turn inside a hostile sea zone and neither moves nor loads any units nor offloads any units during Combat Move, partakes to a successful sea battle without being removed and offloads any number of its cargo into an own or allied territory during the subsequent Non-Combat Move phase.

we have two possible official answers (both from you).

In this topic, you said that
@Krieghund said in Some cases of transport-related rules across "Axis & Allies" games from Classic to the most recent ones:

@Cernel Cases 1 and 2 are legal in versions up to and including Revised OOB, but not legal in Revised LHTR or later.

whereas, based on what you said previously and I quoted at this post, I understand that your answer based on those answers would be something like

Cases 1 and 2 are legal in Revised OOB and the original Europe and Pacific, but not legal in the Classic games nor in Revised LHTR or later.

Which one is the correct ruling?

The second one, as I stated in my amended post above.

If you will, please don’t just tell me to go with whatever you said previously: if you are going with the previous rulings, I’d like to know on what they are based.

Would it be because of the concept that cargo inside a transport which took part in a battle is considered having taken part in the battle too (and therefore cannot do anything during the subsequent Noncombat Move phase) coupled with the fact that every Classic rules-book is missing a special rule like the one in Revised OOB stating that

Transports that have been in combat may either load or offload (not both) during this phase, but not if they have retreated from combat this turn.

If this is not the reason, what is the reason?

Yes, that’s the reason.

I understand that, as an official answerer, you can just limit yourself to say what’s what, but I would like to know the reasons behind the rulings at least for those which (apparently) changed over time or got answers at variance with each other if that is not too much to ask.

I think this was all covered adequately in the “Offloading in Both Combat and Noncombat Movement” thread that you linked. There’s no reason to go over it again.

As a side note, I apologize for not consulting that thread before I answered here initially. I was going from memory, which is always a bad thing to do when dealing with Revised OOB, for reasons discussed in that thread.

Trying to make a summary of a number of my topics, I believe that we can divide the matter into three main cases, namely “1”, “2” and “3”, the latter being actually “1+2”.

A transport with 2 units already on board at start turn offloads 1 unit during Combat Move (does not take part in any battles) and offloads the other unit during Noncombat Move (both units being offloaded into the same territory, which was enemy owned during Combat Move and is friendly during Noncombat Move).

A transport with 1 or 2 units already on board at start turn takes part in a battle (and does not offload any units during Conduct Combat) and offloads all or part of the units during Noncombat move (into a friendly territory).

A transport with 2 units already on board at start tun takes part in a battle and offloads 1 unit during Conduct Combat and offloads the other unit during Noncombat Move (both units being offloaded into the same territory, which was enemy owned during Conduct Combat and is friendly during Noncombat Move).

First of all, have we conclusively clarified that (for every rules-set) whether or not a transport moved before amphibiously offloading or taking part in a battle on the same turn is absolutely irrelevant for whatever it can do during Noncombat Move? Meaning that it would be completely pointless to split the aforementioned three cases into two cases each (for a total of six cases), stating whether the transport moved or not before offloading in Combat Move or taking part in combat. Correct?

Yes.

Secondarily, are we splitting all actual (WW2 and strategic) Axis & Allies games from Classic 1st Edition to the most recent ones into two main groups each of which has either all the above three cases (“1”, “2” and “1+2”) legal or illegal, or are there any such games which have only some of the above three cases legal and the rest illegal?

This grouping is correct.

Either way, I’d like to have the full list of them (Again, it does not need to be an actual list: something like “this full sequence of actions is illegal in every game since Revised LHTR but was legal in Revised OOB and every game beforehand” would be just as good.).

To be clear, I see two cases here.

If I take what you said at the post to which I’m replying now as prevailing over whatever you said in the past and I quoted at this post, what I understand is that,

for the Classic games, 1 and 1+2 are illegal but 2 is legal. for Europe, Pacific and Revised OOB, 1, 2 and 1+2 are all legal. for Revised LHTR and later games, 1, 2 and 1+2 are all illegal.

If I take what you said in the past and I quoted at this post as prevailing over whatever you said at the post to which I’m replying now, what I understand is that,

for the Classic games, Revised LHTR and later games, 1, 2 and 1+2 are all illegal. for Europe, Pacific and Revised OOB, 1, 2 and 1+2 are all legal.

(However, I’m quite unsure about (the original) Europe and Pacific.)

So take your time and let me/us know if you will. I understand that it’s a lot of rules-sets to be sure. Thank you.

For Classic and Revised LHTR and later, all are illegal.
For Europe, Pacific, and LHTR OOB, all are legal.

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Thanks Captain! I had a brief Y2K flashback of “saving space in software by not using 4 digits for the year.” Hopefully our great grandkids will roll their eyes and have a chukle when they have to post L2125 for their games! :-P