Surfer (Allies +6) vs. Max332 (Axis) BM3 LL no Tech

No use the file just before that one. That one was just for the bombing of London

@max334 all the editing should be done except for the bombers and ftrs

I’ll try to clarify what actions I took regarding attacks on the Destroyers and the bombing of London only. Pls let me know if this looks right to you.

1. 3 subs attack your UK Destroyer
   You scramble 3 ftrs
   Result is your DD dies and 2 or 3 of my subs die.
2. 1 sub attacks your US Destroyer
   You scramble
   Result is your DD and my sub dies
3. 4 bombers and 4 ftrs go into London
   You do not launch interceptors
   They cause damage of 14
   Total factory damage is now 17

Ok, scratch my clarification. When I ran a simulation, I again learned something new about sub battles. Pls change my attack on the UK DD and London bombing as follows:

3 subs and 2 ftrs attack your UK Destroyer

4 bombers and 2 ftrs go into London

Pls tell me how you would respond (ie number of scramblers and interceptors).

We can keep all rolls that have been made the same.

Sorry for multiple changes, this is new to me too. Especially with low luck. Thanks

TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 10

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 10

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 103 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 101 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 81 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 80 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Union of South Africa: 1 armour
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Union of South Africa: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 armour moved from Yenisey to Buryatia
              Germans take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians
              Germans take Buryatia from Russians
        1 armour moved from Nenetsia to Urals
        1 artillery moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Denmark to 113 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Southern France to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from France to 110 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        2 bombers moved from France to United Kingdom
        2 bombers moved from Southern France to United Kingdom

Savegame

so the map I just sent you is intended for the sz110 battle and London bombing only. I made some edits, but I did not do the Russian battles. I’ll edit those later to reflect the actual rolls made and results achieved including the NCM’s. Its kind of clear in my head, but I know it may not be that way for you. Let me know

TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 10

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 10

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 103 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 101 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 81 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 80 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Union of South Africa: 1 armour
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Union of South Africa: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 110 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 110 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 armour moved from Yenisey to Buryatia
              Germans take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians
              Germans take Buryatia from Russians
        1 armour moved from Nenetsia to Urals
        1 artillery moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Denmark to 113 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        2 bombers moved from France to United Kingdom
        2 bombers moved from Southern France to United Kingdom
        1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Southern France to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from France to 110 Sea Zone

Savegame

Are we good? Let me know if you disagree with anything I did

Yah scrambling would be a bad idea. What I didn’t know before is that I would be allowed to take subs as losses because of your DD, but your losses would be in ftrs. And if you launched max of 4 interceptors your odds would only be 50-50.

TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 10

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 10

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 103 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 101 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 81 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 80 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Union of South Africa: 1 armour
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Union of South Africa: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 110 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 110 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 armour moved from Yenisey to Buryatia
              Germans take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians
              Germans take Buryatia from Russians
        1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Southern France to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from France to 110 Sea Zone

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 10

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 10

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 103 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 101 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 81 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 80 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Union of South Africa: 1 armour
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Union of South Africa: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 110 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 110 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 armour moved from Yenisey to Buryatia
              Germans take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians
              Germans take Buryatia from Russians
        1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Southern France to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from France to 110 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 fighters and 3 submarines
            British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 2 fighters and 3 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Caucasus: 3 infantry
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Caucasus from Russians to Germans
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern France: 1 bomber
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 aaGun moved from Nenetsia to Urals
        1 mech_infantry moved from Nenetsia to Urals
        1 armour moved from Nenetsia to Novosibirsk
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Tsinghai to Novosibirsk
        2 armour moved from Tsinghai to Novosibirsk
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tsinghai to Caucasus
        1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Scotland
        1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Scotland
        5 transports moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
        5 artilleries, 5 infantry and 5 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Denmark to 113 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        6 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from 111 Sea Zone to Scotland
        1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters moved from 109 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 103 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Southern France to Scotland
        1 bomber moved from France to Western Germany
        1 bomber moved from France to Scotland
        1 aaGun, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia
        1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Poland
        1 aaGun, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Romania
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Poland

    Place Units - Germans
        3 artilleries placed in Normandy Bordeaux
        1 artillery, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
        Germans undo move 2.
        3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 5 infantry placed in Western Germany
        4 mech_infantrys placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Yenisey: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Tsinghai: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Novosibirsk: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern France: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Normandy Bordeaux: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern France: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 0.00
British : -0.33

Savegame

I merged the two maps. Let me know if I missed anything

…I did forget to edit your factory damage to 17

I’ll make the following edits that I forgot to make to my purchase and placement based on the fact that Germany did not do a SeaLion.

1. place 2 art in W Germany instead of Normandy
2. swap out 2 mech & 1 inf (I had placed in Ger) for a Tac
3. place 2 Tacs in France
4. NCM 1 mech to W Ger instead of Poland

let me know if you see others or any mistakes I made with all the edits. Here is the map

G10 12 Sep II.tsvg

just checking in to see if we are all good

…with all the edits and misunderstanding on how sub attacks in our specific situation work I just did not think much about my purchase decision. Each time it was more of an afterthought. I was trying to just get the bombing and DD attacks clear. I mean who wants to put a lot of thought into something that may not matter anyway. Anyway, you seem very fair minded so maybe we can come up with a good compromise. Obviously my purchase is based on making a 3rd attempt on SeaLion while previously it was based on defending the Eastern Front.