[House Rules] The 20 IPC Question....

Well on the board you generaly move stuff 1 at the time.
So the wording is a bit weird but what they try to say is that you only have to move the carrier if not moving it would cause planes to have no landing zone.

So its not earlier as in an earliers phase but earlier as in earlier in the NCB phase.

The game is already weird in that imo all movement should be simultanious. You cant start moving later and still expect to arive at the same time.
If you first await a combat resolution and then move your going to be later then if you are moving immediately.

@ColonelCarter:

@Shin:

I don’t know why HBs would even matter.  Your bombers effectively attack on 5 rather than four now.

yay?

He’s talking about old heavy bombers. The ones that rolled 2 dice @4 and kept both results. Those were pretty much game over.

Actually, the Old HB rolled 3 dice and kept ALL of the results. They only changed it to 2 dice in revised edition, and even that where overpowered.
They also did kept all of the results when stratbombing, AND there where no upper limit on how much damage you could do.

So, effectivly, if you get HB on round 1 with UK. You will build 2 HB as UK for round 1. UK round 2, you will hit germany with 3 HB and 9 dice doing an average of 31.5 IPC of damage (if all bombers get though). That is more or less the entire german economy (which starts at 32) gone from G3 and until the game is over.

So, HB in round 1 and it doesn’t matter if russia falls, bc germany will have zero production for the rest of the game.

What I meant was that the owner can only use those abilities on their own turn. In contrast to scrambling, which can never occur on the base controller’s turn.

Sorry my wording got jumbled. I just wanted to point out why scrambling is not relevant to the rule Shaniana referenced.

@Omega:

When one scramble for defense, can you decide to back after one round of fire? (as the defender_

Urgent, we stopped playing -.-

Asked and answered in the FAQ thread.

You cannot retreat as the defender for any reason.

@Krieghund:

@ghr2:

I need to ask someone since the rules on larry’s site had too much ambiguity.  If russia declares war on japan and attacks a japanese terr (whether boardering Mong or not) then LATER if japan attacks a russian terr boardering Mong, does Mong turn russian?  (basically, russia started the war)

It doesn’t matter whether USSR and Japan are at war, or who started it.  What matters is attacks against territories that border Mongolian territories.  If USSR declares war on Japan, but does not attack any Japanese-controlled territories that are adjacent to Mongolian territories, then Japan attacks a USSR-controlled territory that is adjacent to a Mongolian territory, Mongolia will still ally itself with the Soviet Union.

See Ghr2, cut and dry, sweet and simple!  :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I personally feel Alpha2 does not mesh with Europe only.

There is an exploit if Germany prepares for Sea Lion. Alpha2 permits the US to declare war when London falls. Normally Germany wants to delay the US entering the war and thus will never declare war on them.

The exploit is this, UK can build a carrier, transport and artillery, place the carrier in sz 106 Canada, the transport in South africa with the artillery, they can move their fleet to sz 92 Gibraltar. Land 2 infantry on Algeria (with sz 109 tranny) with 3 planes, leave a DD in sz 94 to prevent naval bombardments on Algeria, and this prevents Italy from taking Algeria to permit a German air assault on the UK navy in 92.
The rest of the UK air lands in Gibraltar and Egypt. Stack land units in Egypt. Also grab Persia with the Med transport.

Germany must choose: Take England turn 2 and permit America to enter the war on turn 2. (Since it built transports on turn 1 to exploit the UK carrier fleet that will be waiting. A large US presence will be in the Med or N. Europe on turn 3 a smaller one on turn 2. The UK fighters move to Egypt turn 2 and it never falls before Italy does.

Round 2 UK has 3 loaded transports able to reinforce Egypt with 7-8 planes…Italy is toast, Russia is fine, and the US is knocking on Germany and Italy’s door turn 2!! Insult is, you get a French fighter and at least 2 french soldiers that can board the first US transport that lands, giving France capture Italian territory options after the US clears sea zones it non combats the French land units into position this is great if you need to grab islands (or capitals  :wink: ) for allied planes after the US combat move.

In Alpha 2 the Major UK factory becomes a minor on top of that, the money German gets after building 3 infantry a turn to defend UK is a net of +4 dollars. Yes Germany has fewer losses, and you lose out on UK land units stacking in UK. But you get an Italy that never gets into Africa as turn 2, you have a couple of ships, and 5-8 planes that can sink the Italian fleet if it is anywhere besides a scramble base, and even then its a risk. Except for sz 97, the UK airforce can hit every Med. sz and land on turn 2. because of Malta, Cyprus and the carrier.

Remember to save the 2 transports that went to Persia and S.Africa and end up in sz 81 they cannot be hit by Italy on turn 2 without Anglo-Egypt which you can liberate. When the UK fleet moves into the Med later on, they give the UK 3 loaded transports that permit assaults or 6 land units and 8 planes to reinforce any US land grabs late game. Plus the French fighter and 2 French land units! lol

If Germany refuses to take UK, the US never needs to build carriers as the UK builds one a turn , plus the 2 units in Africa….game over for Italy and likely the axis.

I get good results with this in Global too, keeping Italy down is nice in global as well depending on if the allies go Europe or Pacific first. It also permits India and anzac to declare war turn 1 after Germany and Japan have gone in order to get the bonus NO money. (The Axis only see Russia’s move and thus make moves for a normal game…japan is not ready to pounce typically as they never expect a turn 1 India/Anzac DOW)

@cressman8064:

@Get:

can they build a Minor IC then upgrade it to a Major IC, since the rules do not state anything about upgrading it to a Major IC.

Upgrading a minor to major on foreign soil still counts as building a major, so with the new rules Korea is the only location Japan can build a major anywhere in the world.

Or Japan, assuming it falls and is retaken.

@calvinhobbesliker:

@miamibeach:

Uk Europe is more like 26.  Italy will be about 22 at most.  Japan at 32.  Uk Pacific 24.

UK Europe is 26? They have 34 with NO so there are 4 subs doing convoy raids?

It depends on how many SUBs remain.  When I was Germany I only had 1 SUB left, SgtBlitz had 3 SUBs left.  Including the NO The range should be from 34 at most, to 28 at least depending on German strategy.