[House Rules] The Cruiser

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 15 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese repair damage of 6x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 44 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Japanese buy 3 destroyers and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 3 bombers moved from French Indo China to Java 1 fighter moved from 38 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma 1 mech_infantry moved from Szechwan to Burma 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to Burma 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Burma 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Burma 1 bomber moved from Japan to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol Combat - Japanese Battle in 42 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 transport ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Java Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 bombers and 1 infantry ANZAC defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 bombers and 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 3 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry Battle in Jehol Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Jehol Japanese win, taking Jehol from Chinese with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Burma Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Burma, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.83 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Burma Japanese win with 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 3 bombers moved from Java to Malaya 1 aaGun moved from Shan State to Malaya 1 artillery moved from Shan State to Malaya 3 fighters moved from Burma to Malaya 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers and 2 transports moved from 38 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 3 tactical_bombers moved from Burma to 36 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Jehol to Japan 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 2 fighters moved from Japan to French Indo China 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Malaya 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 artillery moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Chahar 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 armour moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 1 armour moved from Szechwan to French Indo China 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 1 mech_infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan 1 mech_infantry moved from Hopei to Hunan 1 aaGun moved from Anhwe to Hunan Place Units - Japanese 3 destroyers placed in 36 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Malaya 3 infantry placed in Kiangsu Turn Complete - Japanese Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 20 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,6 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 19 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5 Japanese collect 57 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 59 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from French Indo China: 2 tactical_bombers EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 36 Sea Zone: 2 tactical_bombers EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Siberia: 4 bombers EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Caroline Islands: 4 bombers EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

ANZAC : -0.67 Chinese : -0.33 UK_Pacific : 1.33 Japanese : 1.50

Savegame

Oh, and you were taking too many high risks, and all of those risky battles that bit you, they added up quite significantly.

I’m reviewing all Vichy rules available out there, as I plan to make a unique mod, because I like historical realism and simplicity, with minimized luck of dice, and some “asymmetric balance”.

Some major points I’ve posted elsewhere in the forum:

The main issue for this expansion is how to develop French neutrality, while at the same time providing a bonus to Germany. Apparently ignored by most players, in real life (IRL), Germany economically exploited Vichy, which had to richly sustain 300,000 German troops stationed in Northern France. Therefore, in the game, it only makes total sense that Germany gets the 3 IPCs from Vichy Southern France.

Another related major issue is what to do with French colonies in terms of neutrality/occupation and IPC flows. I agree that the Vichy setup should reflect what happened IRL: North Africa, Syria, and Indochina go to Vichy, while other French colonies stay Free. However, it messes up Italy’s incursions into North Africa (as IRL, Hitler denied French colonies to Italy). I’m not sure yet as to the best approach to subjecting these colonies to invasion, occupation, and who gains IPCs (other than agreeing that Japan has easy access “rights” over Vichy Indochina), and also remote units…

Germany never fought Vichy. IRL, with Operation Torch, Germany simply occupied Vichy in 1942, with no resistance whatsoever. Vichy units were disbanded. That can be also the case in the game. Just remove Vichy units.

The uncertainty surrounding local pre-battles is quite interesting (will Vichy troops welcome or resist Allies in North Africa?..). However, I’d try to minimize dice randomness that is often used to decide some outcome. IRL, Vichy troops (just like Italians) surrendered as soon as seeing enemy superiority: thus, in the game, if Allies send more land + air units than defending Vichy units, then there should be no battle but quick surrender. Or, make it highly unlikely that a battle would ensue (for example, need to roll a 1).

I’m now working on my own house rules, for an expansion (HBG lingo) that is quite realistic, fun yet simple. If anyone is interested, let me know and I’ll be happy to share my rules when ready…

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Chicago, December 2020

sub 3 mech 2 tank if you g1 dow russia.
sub 2 bomber standard g2/g3 dow russia or invade london.

The gold standard of buys. Everything else is sub optimal. Why is that? For the G1 dow Germany is attacking 7 infantry, france (all in, no normandy or southern france, can’t risk losing mech/armor for 2 or 3 ipc better to let italy do it and use arty round 2 for normandy) attempting to strafe yugoslavia, sinking one of the two fleets (usually the bship 2 cruiser), sinking dd trans with 2 sub, and sub to sz 125 to prevent Russia NO.

For a standard game the 2 bombers have more potential. They sink naval, you could fly everything to southern italy and attack egypt, if allies park on syria with air you can attack it, bombers could bomb london and you can buy transports to take uk out of the game if UK disrespects you. The bombers are able to attack and take russia in later rounds unlike naval. Oh and bombing the Russians typically puts on a hurt G4/G5, which can occur before allies start flying fighters in.  You do whatever attacks you prefer g1.

Since you use marines as an example, it seems you are playing g40 mod3, in which case sub optimal strategies become better… but g40 mod3 still heavily favors axis. Germany still brings in the pain train, except instead of a 21 ipc bid you get NO money. So initial allies attacks and defenses are diminished, this puts more pressure on the axis to play more aggressive, which they want to do anyway.

Thanks for the explained clarification Wild Bill, it helped!

BH

Thank you

Thanks Marc!

Transports are automatically destroyed only when they are defenseless.  This means that something is still shooting at them and they either have no protection or cannot retreat.  Attacking transports are very seldom defenseless, as they can usually retreat.  See the AAP40 FAQ for further information.

Peck is right.  Transports may not unload after retreating.