19L axis-dominion (+4) vs KILL! (allies) bm3

I am playing a casual game of BM3 (3.0) with Canada being a separate faction instead of under British’s domain. I noticed in the game that China does not spawn guerrillas in Japan’s territories not garrisoned by a land unit. The notes differ as to also in that China gets another +3 for their Objective. Is this a compensation or a bug rather?

Bid Placement is:
1x UK DD sz 91
1x UK Sub sz 98
1x China Art in Szechwan

That’s why your transports were out of range for the retake of London then? I thought i needed to take advantage of that. If I had have taken Scotland, you would have seen me coming and made sure to have your transports in SZ113/SZ112, with a fleet in SZ112 to prevent blocking.

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 15 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese repair damage of 6x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 44 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Japanese buy 3 destroyers and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 3 bombers moved from French Indo China to Java 1 fighter moved from 38 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma 1 mech_infantry moved from Szechwan to Burma 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to Burma 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Burma 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Burma 1 bomber moved from Japan to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol Combat - Japanese Battle in 42 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 transport ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Java Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 bombers and 1 infantry ANZAC defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 bombers and 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 3 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry Battle in Jehol Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Jehol Japanese win, taking Jehol from Chinese with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Burma Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Burma, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.83 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Burma Japanese win with 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 3 bombers moved from Java to Malaya 1 aaGun moved from Shan State to Malaya 1 artillery moved from Shan State to Malaya 3 fighters moved from Burma to Malaya 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers and 2 transports moved from 38 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 3 tactical_bombers moved from Burma to 36 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Jehol to Japan 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 2 fighters moved from Japan to French Indo China 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Malaya 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 artillery moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Chahar 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 armour moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 1 armour moved from Szechwan to French Indo China 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 1 mech_infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan 1 mech_infantry moved from Hopei to Hunan 1 aaGun moved from Anhwe to Hunan Place Units - Japanese 3 destroyers placed in 36 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Malaya 3 infantry placed in Kiangsu Turn Complete - Japanese Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 20 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,6 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 19 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5 Japanese collect 57 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 59 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from French Indo China: 2 tactical_bombers EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 36 Sea Zone: 2 tactical_bombers EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Siberia: 4 bombers EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Caroline Islands: 4 bombers EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

ANZAC : -0.67 Chinese : -0.33 UK_Pacific : 1.33 Japanese : 1.50

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I’m reviewing all Vichy rules available out there, as I plan to make a unique mod, because I like historical realism and simplicity, with minimized luck of dice, and some “asymmetric balance”.

Some major points I’ve posted elsewhere in the forum:

The main issue for this expansion is how to develop French neutrality, while at the same time providing a bonus to Germany. Apparently ignored by most players, in real life (IRL), Germany economically exploited Vichy, which had to richly sustain 300,000 German troops stationed in Northern France. Therefore, in the game, it only makes total sense that Germany gets the 3 IPCs from Vichy Southern France.

Another related major issue is what to do with French colonies in terms of neutrality/occupation and IPC flows. I agree that the Vichy setup should reflect what happened IRL: North Africa, Syria, and Indochina go to Vichy, while other French colonies stay Free. However, it messes up Italy’s incursions into North Africa (as IRL, Hitler denied French colonies to Italy). I’m not sure yet as to the best approach to subjecting these colonies to invasion, occupation, and who gains IPCs (other than agreeing that Japan has easy access “rights” over Vichy Indochina), and also remote units…

Germany never fought Vichy. IRL, with Operation Torch, Germany simply occupied Vichy in 1942, with no resistance whatsoever. Vichy units were disbanded. That can be also the case in the game. Just remove Vichy units.

The uncertainty surrounding local pre-battles is quite interesting (will Vichy troops welcome or resist Allies in North Africa?..). However, I’d try to minimize dice randomness that is often used to decide some outcome. IRL, Vichy troops (just like Italians) surrendered as soon as seeing enemy superiority: thus, in the game, if Allies send more land + air units than defending Vichy units, then there should be no battle but quick surrender. Or, make it highly unlikely that a battle would ensue (for example, need to roll a 1).

I’m now working on my own house rules, for an expansion (HBG lingo) that is quite realistic, fun yet simple. If anyone is interested, let me know and I’ll be happy to share my rules when ready…

phd_angel@yahoo.com

Chicago, December 2020

@cyanheath

Welcome. All depends on what you want in your game. Play ability or more historic.

Yes there is a lack of room on a d6 dice. No room to adjust pieces better. Mostly the Cruiser and Destroyer.

Also you probably should remove your Ad for buoys.

@axis-dominion said in 19L axis-dominion vs majikforce (allies) bm3:

@majikforce if you want, I can go axis again. give you another chance to redeem your allies ;)

LOL! Let’s see if I qualify as insane. Doing the same thing over again expecting a different result. I’m down! Fire it up!

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 10

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 10 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans repair damage of 6x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 75 PUs; Germans buy 1 airfield, 3 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 mech_infantry moved from Nenetsia to Smolensk 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Smolensk 4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 7 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 1 bomber moved from Germany to Bryansk 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Bryansk Combat - Germans Battle in Bryansk Germans attack with 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 10 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 aaGun and 9 infantry AA fire in Bryansk : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 10 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Bryansk, round 2 : 9/18 hits, 6.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun and 9 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 3.00 expected hits 8 infantry owned by the Russians, 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 7 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Bryansk, round 3 : 6/15 hits, 6.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 7 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 23 Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun and 9 infantry Battle in Smolensk Germans attack with 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 3 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 3 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys in Smolensk, round 2 : 5/18 hits, 5.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 3 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 2 bombers moved from Bryansk to Ukraine 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Bryansk to Ukraine 1 tactical_bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to Yugoslavia 2 carriers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 8 armour moved from Ukraine to Smolensk 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Ukraine 1 aaGun moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to Yugoslavia 9 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Smolensk 5 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 3 transports moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 3 infantry and 1 marine moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone 3 infantry, 1 marine and 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 3 infantry and 1 marine moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt Place Units - Germans 1 airfield placed in Yugoslavia 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers placed in Ukraine 3 armour placed in Novgorod 1 infantry placed in France 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany Germans undo move 5. 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany 1 infantry placed in France Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 64 PUs; end with 64 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 76 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 2.17 AA fire in Bryansk : : -0.50 Russians : -0.67

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