Witt and PP play 1942 Anniversary

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1942, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 6 infantry moved from Egypt to Libya

    Combat - British
        Battle in Libya
            British attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry; Italians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                AA fire in Libya : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in Libya, round 2 : 3/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry in Libya, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans, 2 infantry owned by the Italians and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Libya
                British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Libya, round 3 : 3/9 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Libya, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Libya
            2 artilleries owned by the British, 2 infantry owned by the British and 1 armour owned by the British retreated to Egypt
            Italians win with 1 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for British: 4 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 bomber moved from Libya to India
        1 fighter moved from Libya to Egypt
        1 bomber and 3 infantry moved from India to Burma

    Place Units - British
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in India
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Egypt
        1 carrier placed in 2 Sea Zone
        1 fighter placed in 2 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs
        Objective 2: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 38 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

British : -1.00
Italians : -0.67
AA fire in Libya : : -0.33

Territory Summary for British :

Australia : 1 aaGun and 3 infantry
Burma : 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
Eastern Canada : 2 infantry
Egypt : 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 factory, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
India : 1 artillery, 1 factory and 2 infantry
New Zealand : 1 infantry
United Kingdom : 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 2 infantry
2 Sea Zone : 1 carrier and 1 fighter
19 Sea Zone : 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Japanese : 34 / 51
Russians : 22 / 30
Germans : 38 / 53
British : 33 / 38
Italians : 10 / 17
Chinese : 4 / 0
Americans : 37 / 51

Dice Statistics:

Total
        1 was rolled 78 times
        2 was rolled 63 times
        3 was rolled 101 times
        4 was rolled 71 times
        5 was rolled 95 times
        6 was rolled 84 times
    Average roll : 3.598
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 2.102
    Standard Deviation : 1.450
    Total rolls : 492

Germans Combat
        1 was rolled 17 times
        2 was rolled 14 times
        3 was rolled 26 times
        4 was rolled 16 times
        5 was rolled 30 times
        6 was rolled 26 times
    Average roll : 3.822
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 1.715
    Standard Deviation : 1.310
    Total rolls : 129

British Combat
        1 was rolled 14 times
        2 was rolled 10 times
        3 was rolled 17 times
        4 was rolled 10 times
        5 was rolled 10 times
        6 was rolled 9 times
    Average roll : 3.271
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 0.715
    Standard Deviation : 0.846
    Total rolls : 70

Italians Combat
        1 was rolled 3 times
        2 was rolled 4 times
        3 was rolled 8 times
        4 was rolled 5 times
        5 was rolled 3 times
        6 was rolled 7 times
    Average roll : 3.733
    Median : 3.500
    Variance : 0.759
    Standard Deviation : 0.871
    Total rolls : 30

Americans Combat
        1 was rolled 2 times
        2 was rolled 6 times
        3 was rolled 6 times
        4 was rolled 2 times
        5 was rolled 5 times
        6 was rolled 6 times
    Average roll : 3.741
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 0.750
    Standard Deviation : 0.866
    Total rolls : 27

Chinese Combat
        1 was rolled 4 times
        2 was rolled 2 times
        3 was rolled 3 times
        4 was rolled 7 times
        5 was rolled 6 times
        6 was rolled 1 times
    Average roll : 3.522
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 1.220
    Standard Deviation : 1.104
    Total rolls : 23

Russians Combat
        1 was rolled 23 times
        2 was rolled 9 times
        3 was rolled 24 times
        4 was rolled 14 times
        5 was rolled 22 times
        6 was rolled 22 times
    Average roll : 3.605
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 1.628
    Standard Deviation : 1.276
    Total rolls : 114

Japanese Combat
        1 was rolled 15 times
        2 was rolled 18 times
        3 was rolled 17 times
        4 was rolled 17 times
        5 was rolled 19 times
        6 was rolled 13 times
    Average roll : 3.465
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 0.240
    Standard Deviation : 0.490
    Total rolls : 99

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1942, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 3 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Chinese builds 2 units.

    Combat Move - Americans
        3 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Germany

    Combat - Americans
        Strategic bombing raid in Germany
            Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 2,2,3 and causes: 7 damage to unit: factory
            Bombing raid in Germany causes 7 damage total. 

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        3 bombers moved from Germany to United Kingdom
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 1 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 1 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 2 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to 2 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Americans
        2 fighters placed in Western United States
        1 carrier placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 fighter placed in 10 Sea Zone
        Americans undo move 1.
        1 fighter placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 fighter placed in Western United States
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States

    Combat Move - Chinese
        4 infantry moved from Hupeh to Yunnan
              Chinese take Yunnan from Japanese
        3 infantry moved from Sikang to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Ningxia to Hupeh

    Combat - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese

    Place Units - Chinese
        2 infantry placed in Sikang

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs
        Objective 3: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 42 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Territory Summary for Americans and Chinese :

Alaska : 1 infantry
Eastern Canada : 1 aaGun
Eastern United States : 1 artillery, 1 factory and 1 infantry
Hupeh : 1 infantry
Midway : 1 infantry
Sikang : 2 infantry
United Kingdom : 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 bombers and 4 infantry
Western United States : 1 aaGun, 1 factory, 3 fighters and 2 infantry
Yunnan : 7 infantry
2 Sea Zone : 1 fighter and 1 transport
10 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Japanese : 33 / 51
Russians : 18 / 30
Germans : 38 / 53
British : 33 / 38
Italians : 14 / 19
Chinese : 5 / 0
Americans : 37 / 42

Dice Statistics:

Total
        1 was rolled 82 times
        2 was rolled 76 times
        3 was rolled 113 times
        4 was rolled 74 times
        5 was rolled 101 times
        6 was rolled 90 times
    Average roll : 3.571
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 2.174
    Standard Deviation : 1.475
    Total rolls : 536

Null / Other
        1 was rolled 2 times
        2 was rolled 8 times
        3 was rolled 7 times
        4 was rolled 2 times
        5 was rolled 5 times
        6 was rolled 6 times
    Average roll : 3.600
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 1.103
    Standard Deviation : 1.050
    Total rolls : 30

Germans Combat
        1 was rolled 17 times
        2 was rolled 14 times
        3 was rolled 26 times
        4 was rolled 16 times
        5 was rolled 29 times
        6 was rolled 25 times
    Average roll : 3.795
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 1.546
    Standard Deviation : 1.244
    Total rolls : 127

British Combat
        1 was rolled 14 times
        2 was rolled 10 times
        3 was rolled 17 times
        4 was rolled 10 times
        5 was rolled 10 times
        6 was rolled 9 times
    Average roll : 3.271
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 0.715
    Standard Deviation : 0.846
    Total rolls : 70

Italians Combat
        1 was rolled 5 times
        2 was rolled 5 times
        3 was rolled 11 times
        4 was rolled 5 times
        5 was rolled 4 times
        6 was rolled 8 times
    Average roll : 3.579
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 0.955
    Standard Deviation : 0.977
    Total rolls : 38

Americans Combat
        1 was rolled 2 times
        2 was rolled 8 times
        3 was rolled 7 times
        4 was rolled 2 times
        5 was rolled 5 times
        6 was rolled 6 times
    Average roll : 3.600
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 1.103
    Standard Deviation : 1.050
    Total rolls : 30

Chinese Combat
        1 was rolled 4 times
        2 was rolled 2 times
        3 was rolled 3 times
        4 was rolled 7 times
        5 was rolled 6 times
        6 was rolled 1 times
    Average roll : 3.522
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 1.220
    Standard Deviation : 1.104
    Total rolls : 23

Russians Combat
        1 was rolled 23 times
        2 was rolled 11 times
        3 was rolled 25 times
        4 was rolled 15 times
        5 was rolled 23 times
        6 was rolled 22 times
    Average roll : 3.588
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 1.295
    Standard Deviation : 1.138
    Total rolls : 119

Japanese Combat
        1 was rolled 15 times
        2 was rolled 18 times
        3 was rolled 17 times
        4 was rolled 17 times
        5 was rolled 19 times
        6 was rolled 13 times
    Average roll : 3.465
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 0.240
    Standard Deviation : 0.490
    Total rolls : 99

Savegame

@Wittmann Meant to attack the G CC with my R sub, so here are some forum dice:

R sub at 2 - dice:1d6:

G CC at 3 if sub misses - dice:1d6:

@Private-Panic Trying again!

R sub at 2 - :dice1d6:

G CC at 3 if sub misses - :dice1d6:

@Private-Panic Can you remember the dice command Leo? If so, please feel free the roll the battle, paste it on and carry on.

@Private-Panic The dice roller has not been implemented on the new forum, yet. It is on djensen’s todo-list.

Ahh! Thanks Panther.

Leo - why don’t you roll some of your loaded dice and tell me you killed my sub?! :relaxed:

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1942, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 5 artilleries and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        2 infantry moved from Russia to Caucasus
        1 bomber moved from Russia to Caucasus
        1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Russia to Belorussia
        4 armour, 2 artilleries and 24 infantry moved from Russia to Belorussia

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Caucasus
            Russians attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 armour and 1 factory
                Russians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Caucasus
            Russians win, taking Caucasus from Italians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 armour
        Battle in Belorussia
            Russians attack with 4 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 26 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 4 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 26 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 9/34 hits, 8.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia
            Russians win, taking Belorussia from Germans with 4 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 25 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        3 aaGuns moved from Russia to Belorussia
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Archangel
        4 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug
        1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Russia
        1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Russia

    Place Units - Russians
        5 artilleries and 1 fighter placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs
        Objective 1: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 28 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -0.17
Italians : 0.50
Russians : 0.67

Territory Summary for Russians :

Archangel : 1 infantry
Belorussia : 3 aaGuns, 4 armour, 3 artilleries and 25 infantry
Caucasus : 1 factory and 1 infantry
Eastern Ukraine : 1 infantry
Evenki National Okrug : 4 infantry
Russia : 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 factory and 2 fighters
8 Sea Zone : 1 submarine

Production/PUs Summary :

Japanese : 35 / 52
Russians : 23 / 28
Germans : 37 / 53
British : 33 / 38
Italians : 10 / 19
Chinese : 3 / 0
Americans : 37 / 42

Dice Statistics:

Total
        1 was rolled 84 times
        2 was rolled 79 times
        3 was rolled 111 times
        4 was rolled 79 times
        5 was rolled 106 times
        6 was rolled 95 times
    Average roll : 3.594
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 1.749
    Standard Deviation : 1.323
    Total rolls : 554

Null / Other
        5 was rolled 1 times
        6 was rolled 1 times
    Average roll : 5.500
    Median : 5.500
    Variance : 1.333
    Standard Deviation : 1.155
    Total rolls : 2

Germans Combat
        1 was rolled 17 times
        2 was rolled 15 times
        3 was rolled 26 times
        4 was rolled 17 times
        5 was rolled 29 times
        6 was rolled 26 times
    Average roll : 3.800
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 1.390
    Standard Deviation : 1.179
    Total rolls : 130

British Combat
        1 was rolled 14 times
        2 was rolled 10 times
        3 was rolled 17 times
        4 was rolled 10 times
        5 was rolled 10 times
        6 was rolled 9 times
    Average roll : 3.271
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 0.715
    Standard Deviation : 0.846
    Total rolls : 70

Italians Combat
        1 was rolled 5 times
        2 was rolled 5 times
        3 was rolled 12 times
        4 was rolled 5 times
        5 was rolled 4 times
        6 was rolled 8 times
    Average roll : 3.564
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 1.197
    Standard Deviation : 1.094
    Total rolls : 39

Americans Combat
        1 was rolled 2 times
        2 was rolled 6 times
        3 was rolled 6 times
        4 was rolled 2 times
        5 was rolled 5 times
        6 was rolled 6 times
    Average roll : 3.741
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 0.750
    Standard Deviation : 0.866
    Total rolls : 27

Chinese Combat
        1 was rolled 4 times
        2 was rolled 2 times
        3 was rolled 4 times
        4 was rolled 7 times
        5 was rolled 7 times
        6 was rolled 1 times
    Average roll : 3.560
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 1.285
    Standard Deviation : 1.133
    Total rolls : 25

Russians Combat
        1 was rolled 26 times
        2 was rolled 22 times
        3 was rolled 28 times
        4 was rolled 18 times
        5 was rolled 31 times
        6 was rolled 31 times
    Average roll : 3.635
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 0.865
    Standard Deviation : 0.930
    Total rolls : 156

Japanese Combat
        1 was rolled 16 times
        2 was rolled 19 times
        3 was rolled 18 times
        4 was rolled 20 times
        5 was rolled 19 times
        6 was rolled 13 times
    Average roll : 3.438
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 0.322
    Standard Deviation : 0.568
    Total rolls : 105

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1942, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Libya
        1 fighter moved from Egypt to Libya
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Libya

    Combat - British
        Battle in Libya
            British attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Libya, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Libya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Libya, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Libya, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Libya, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Libya, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Libya, round 5 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Libya, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Libya, round 6 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Libya, round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Libya
                British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Libya, round 7 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Libya, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Libya, round 8 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Libya, round 8 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Libya
             retreated to Libya
            Italians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 fighter moved from Libya to Egypt
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 5 infantry moved from Burma to India
        1 fighter moved from India to Egypt
        1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 2 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone

    Place Units - British
        2 fighters placed in United Kingdom
        2 infantry placed in Egypt
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 33 PUs; end with 35 PUs
        Objective 2: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 40 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

British : -5.50
Italians : -0.33

Territory Summary for British :

Australia : 1 aaGun and 3 infantry
Burma : 1 infantry
Eastern Canada : 2 infantry
Egypt : 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
India : 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 factory and 9 infantry
New Zealand : 1 infantry
United Kingdom : 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
12 Sea Zone : 1 carrier and 1 fighter
19 Sea Zone : 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Japanese : 35 / 52
Russians : 19 / 28
Germans : 41 / 56
British : 33 / 40
Italians : 10 / 19
Chinese : 3 / 0
Americans : 37 / 42

Dice Statistics:

Total
        1 was rolled 86 times
        2 was rolled 82 times
        3 was rolled 119 times
        4 was rolled 81 times
        5 was rolled 114 times
        6 was rolled 102 times
    Average roll : 3.618
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 2.400
    Standard Deviation : 1.549
    Total rolls : 584

Null / Other
        5 was rolled 1 times
        6 was rolled 2 times
    Average roll : 5.667
    Median : 6.000
    Variance : 1.750
    Standard Deviation : 1.323
    Total rolls : 3

Germans Combat
        1 was rolled 18 times
        2 was rolled 15 times
        3 was rolled 26 times
        4 was rolled 18 times
        5 was rolled 29 times
        6 was rolled 26 times
    Average roll : 3.780
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 1.237
    Standard Deviation : 1.112
    Total rolls : 132

British Combat
        1 was rolled 14 times
        2 was rolled 12 times
        3 was rolled 21 times
        4 was rolled 10 times
        5 was rolled 18 times
        6 was rolled 14 times
    Average roll : 3.539
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 0.919
    Standard Deviation : 0.958
    Total rolls : 89

Italians Combat
        1 was rolled 6 times
        2 was rolled 6 times
        3 was rolled 15 times
        4 was rolled 6 times
        5 was rolled 4 times
        6 was rolled 9 times
    Average roll : 3.500
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 1.719
    Standard Deviation : 1.311
    Total rolls : 46

Americans Combat
        1 was rolled 2 times
        2 was rolled 6 times
        3 was rolled 6 times
        4 was rolled 2 times
        5 was rolled 5 times
        6 was rolled 6 times
    Average roll : 3.741
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 0.750
    Standard Deviation : 0.866
    Total rolls : 27

Chinese Combat
        1 was rolled 4 times
        2 was rolled 2 times
        3 was rolled 4 times
        4 was rolled 7 times
        5 was rolled 7 times
        6 was rolled 1 times
    Average roll : 3.560
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 1.285
    Standard Deviation : 1.133
    Total rolls : 25

Russians Combat
        1 was rolled 26 times
        2 was rolled 22 times
        3 was rolled 29 times
        4 was rolled 18 times
        5 was rolled 31 times
        6 was rolled 31 times
    Average roll : 3.631
    Median : 4.000
    Variance : 0.890
    Standard Deviation : 0.943
    Total rolls : 157

Japanese Combat
        1 was rolled 16 times
        2 was rolled 19 times
        3 was rolled 18 times
        4 was rolled 20 times
        5 was rolled 19 times
        6 was rolled 13 times
    Average roll : 3.438
    Median : 3.000
    Variance : 0.322
    Standard Deviation : 0.568
    Total rolls : 105

Savegame

What a bloody idiot! Got the turn order wrong!:anguished: