AARHE: Phase 3: land Combat

Of course I agree. I suggested it first.

++++ yes you did good!

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You mean if there is one or more adjacent friendly territories with no “pending combat” then you must choose among those? No option to check two combats cycle by cycle in that case?
+++++ Yes right you can… thats makes quick work of that “problem”

Ok so defender can must retreat to friendly territories with no pending combat if avaliable. If unavailable we do cycle-by-cycle analysis for defending land units, fly 1/2 range for defending air units.

++++ exactly perfect!

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++++ no because all defending planes land only after the end of all combat… thus they land in territories within 1/2 flight range. The allies take western and german planes remain untill other combat is resolved in other territories like in OOB

Ok so air units that performed a DAS mission do not take part in further combat for the rest of the (passive) turn.

+++++yes exactly you got it perfect!

do you see any other “problems” with the current combat porposal?

well, we do have “air interdiction” to talk about if we are having that

also, you haven’t answered whether you ok with not able to have “battle of britain” style attacks?
that is
attacker: air
defender: air + land

current proposal only allows one cycle of combat
just like

attacker: air
defender air + naval

+++++++ Ok the air interdiction idea is basically from AH d-day, but with some changes. Its one round because if it wasnt then that mission would never be tried. I playtested it and thats a correct statement. The basic idea is a simple way to demonstrate some influence on moving land units, and secondly to feature some ability to “bomb” rail lines where this type of mission is performed.

I think the rules are posted at avalon hill.com

BTW i bought this “operation barbarossa” game which is touted as a axis and allies expansion… its very simple and fun to play… i was surprised how fun it is.

www.conquestgaming.com

24.95

not a bad game really!

How come one is fighter and one is bomber?

++++ great question! i think this fell thru the cracks… it really should be either.

Maritime Defense

I think this can be under Defensive Air Support.

++++ yes probably right… to simplify that should be changed… the idea was to seperate it because now were dealing with oceans and warships instead of.

Its just a special case of it involving an adjacent friendly sea zone, rather than an adjacent friendly territory.

Note: Under current rules, land FTR or BMR may only fight for one cycle in the sea.

Its on the active players turn… he places his bomber in a territory on his turn… the bomber stays until exactly one turn later when it can be used for other things

Yes you fight it out with pne round of interdiction combat. so your bomber will need escorts. the defending player is using his passive air mission in this case.

I cant find this section: I think you want multiple air battles over British skies?

OK so heres a possible solution: German planes can fly over British territory and SBR its industrial complex with one round of combat. this is the only current method where we allow such a dogfight for its own w/o any land units involved… Now say we use any remaining movement points left over that the German planes have to force additional combat rounds with each additional round costing one additional movement point.

example: lets give the fighters 6 movement points and bombers 8 MP however the planes have to land exactly where they came from… no more take off from UK to bomb Africa and land in north Africa…thus in western Europe German planes can expend 2 MP to get to england and use 2 MP to get back… this leaves 2 free MP which allows up to 3 rounds or air combat over england ( using those modified aerial combat values).

thats one free round as per normal rules and one round for each free MP available.

The stated rule can also be used universally to solve the sub stall debate and also fix the idea of stopping a naval fleet with a single ship ( also stalling it).

example:

The phasing player has two MP he spends one moving into a zone occupied by enemy naval units. the attacking player can decide to force combat and end his combat move in this territory. The defender can now decide he is unwilling to block the fleet and allow your fleet to pass thru the SZ and move into a new sea zone. Note: the attacker decides first whether he wants to attack and the defender has a second option also to engage. If neither side wants combat the ships may pass. In this latter case the same routine occurs with each side having an option to attack or be attacked. Each round of combat beyond the first combat phase costs one MP.

If we decide to change naval movement to 3 this idea would work better, but 2 is also ok… except as you know Carriers and Cruisers move 3 anyway under the new ideas. (fast carriers and new cruiser unit)

The very same idea can be extropolated from this same idea… namely with air combat  beyond the first round costing one MP. Planes may even be able to attack in one territory and continue into another territory if they have MP left… this is a new idea.