AARHE: Phase 2: Units

I always liked the idea of having special units per player… Perhaps jet fighters for Germany, jet bombers for USA, flying boats for UK…

Jet Fighter (Germany): Cost 14, 4/3. Sneak Attack in Dogfighting for first round. May retreat combat at the beginning of any round (including the first one), to any Friendly Territory in Range.

Heavy Bomber (US): Cost 17 (18?) IPC’s, 4/2. SBR, and rolls 2 Dice in Attack.

Flying Boats (US and UK): Cost 14 IPC’s, 3/2. Naval Combat Advantage (sneak attack to represent black cats), can attack subs without radar. Convoy attack (if convoys are in the game).

GG

I would be up for an idea like that. I think in different ways this was assumed to be an idea that is active, I am not quite sure what your ideas for techs were… I would be willing to have only the standard units (+ Larrys new ones: Cruisers, Dive Bombers, and Mech. Infantry) and just have tech upgrades…

GG

How about a more maneuverable, plane, making it harder to hit? Outnumbered British spitfires were much more maneuverable than the Luftwaffe, and the Luftwaffe suffered many casualties because of this. How about an early warning system. Allowing a fighter to reinforce an adjacent friendly territory being attacked and landing back in the territory from which it came?

P.S., we should make a topic for finalizations of phases, to keep everyone up to speed. It should only contain completed phases, like the turn sequence, time factor, etc. We should also keep comments to a minimum so it will be easier to see the final product of a given phase, you know what I mean?

Just throwing out some ideas so we could probably use them or work off them!

RD

http://rapidshare.de/files/26442741/Axis___Allies_Historic_Edition_Phase_2_Draft_200607XX.rtf.html

Get it guys… am going through it…

GG

I have a “specialist” unit for Germany… How about making there Artillery “mobile” and it can target tanks as if they were “Aircraft” (88’s) but can only fire at one or the other… I think that the Allies would find it harder to just land in France on T2 or 3 because they can if a more historical blocker was in the way…

GG

@Imperious:

we are stuck in the linguistic’s but we can easily circumvent this consider:
Advanced fighters
Advanced bombers

Yeah so basically Jet, Long Range Aircraft, Heavy Bombers are all upgrades not new units.
But its no longer called “Jet” for example.

I am ok with that. That solves the too many air units problem.

@rawdawg:

How about an early warning system. Allowing a fighter to reinforce an adjacent friendly territory being attacked and landing back in the territory from which it came?

Yep we have this.
Its called Defensive Air Support.
When its not your turn your planes can actually combat in an adjacent territory or sea zone INSTEAD of the territory it is in.

P.S., we should make a topic for finalizations of phases, to keep everyone up to speed. It should only contain completed phases, like the turn sequence, time factor, etc. We should also keep comments to a minimum so it will be easier to see the final product of a given phase, you know what I mean?

We have that. For phase 1 we have a “AARHE: Phase 1: Final Draft” thread.
For phase 2, which is incomplete, we have a “AARHE: Phase 2: Draft” thread which will be renamed to “AARHE: Phase 2: Final Draft” or something when we move onto phase 3.

Perhaps this should be seperated into two topics - aircraft and land?

I’d like to see the creation of convoy units, which would subtract IPC’s from their controlling country if destroyed. What about partisans, such as the FFF?

I find it interesting that the map is being preserved (as much as possible) to retain A&A appeal, but the basic unit system is being changed quite radically.

Most of the unit changes are to accommodate the said map.

I think this would be part of phase two, but there may be overlap into phase three.

Espionage ~ Throughout WW2 spies were utilized to weaken enemy positions. A well-known example of this is the insertion of English speaking Germans in American uniforms behind Allied lines during the Ardennes offensive.

New Unit: Spy – Costs 10 IPCs, does not take part in combat. Spies can move into territories occupied by enemy forces as long as a Counter-Espionage Force is not present. Has a movement of 1.

Spies can conduct a single act of espionage per turn, chosen from the options listed below. Acts of espionage, unless otherwise listed, must be done in a territory controlled by an opponent.

Industrial Espionage – Reduce the opposing nation’s total IPCs by 1/2 of the spy’s current territory’s production value, rounded down. For example; Japan has 30 IPCs saved, and a USSR spy conducts industrial espionage in Manchuria. Japan loses 1 IPC, bringing it’s total to 29.

Gather Technological Intelligence - Chose a technology your opponent has more research completed in than you. You gain one research point towards the completion of that technology.

Incite Rebellion – Receive X free infantry, where X is one third of the nations production value plus one (if the territory was originally owned by your nation but captured, you receive two thirds instead of one third) rounded down. If no enemy units are present in the territory you gain control of it. If enemy units are present combat takes place, with you as the attacker. The infantry attack in the opening fire step, as they would have surprised the defending forces.

Confuse Defenders - Two units from the same territory chosen by you attack each other. A single round of combat takes place, with both units using their offensive value. After casualties are removed the remaining units end combat, having realized their error.

Assassinate Government Personnel - Roll one D6. If you roll a six, the territory the spy is currently in will not contribute to the nation’s IPC count during the next collect income phase.

Counter-Intelligence – The spy gains the ability of a Counter-Espionage Force, allowing it to attack enemy spies. However, the spy can still not partake in regular combat. Note: a spy does not need to be in an enemy territory to sue this ability.

New Unit: Counter-Espionage Force – Costs 4 IPCs, attacks on a 1 and defends on a 2. Has a movement of 1.

A Counter-Espionage Force is capable of detecting spies. If it enters a territory containing a spy, all units within the territory will instantly attack the enemy spy. When attacking a spy the Counter-Espionage Force attacks on a 4 or less.

:? I can’t find that section.

although I think even Commandos is below the level of abstraction

certain section names end with “(optional)”

like “National Units (optional)”

Want to print out cards? Specialty unit “attacks” could be unique, unlimited use abilities (limited to how many you can hold) that cost money to carry out… Don’t ask me how they work just an idea to throw out…

GG