3rd Edition Rules Compendio v3.5 (Final)

Hello, well i translate the manual of A&A PC 1998, from German to English. The new 3° edition rules are:

"…new features in the rules of the 3rd edition

Diving submarines: defending submarines can dive during the fight or withdraw from the fight. A submerged submarine remains in the same sea zone until it resurfaces after the fight.

Air units can withdraw from an amphibious attack: figthers and bombers can retreat from an amphibious attack if the things are shell-dead to the attacker.

Several AAA in one territory: you can now place several AAAs on a territory. However, only one of these AAA can fire during defence.

New sea units can be placed in disputed sea zones: they can now place their sea units in sea zones occupied by the friend. In this case, the fight takes place during the enemy’s strike, in case the enemy does not draw his unites before the fight from the zone.
Note: you still need to place your sea units in the immediate vicinity of one of your industrial complexes.

Western Canada no longer borders directly on the Atlantic Ocean: this prevents a player from moving units from the Atlantic directly to Western Canada…"

Now the plastic figures are finite and listed in the box (box that have a sheman tank, and not the futuristic panzer 3 we use and love); but the plastic chips number is diferenti in the boxes, some have 10 red others 7, i have 6, some have 50 blancas other 65, i have 72, soooo….

@Krieghund:

Welcome, yeomans!

Submarines can be attacked by air units in this game.  Of course, they will only get one shot before the sub(s) can withdraw.

You may be thinking of the rule that says subs can’t hit air units, or you may have read something concerning later versions of A&A in which air units are unable to hit subs without a friendly destroyer present.

The underlined portion was a totally new thing for us when we started playing 1942.2 (after playing the classic version for so long).  I can see the idea behind it though.  Helps preserve the sub a bit better from what we’ve seen.

A newbie facing the same dilemma. Thanks for letting me know that it is the second generation. But can you please elaborate how that come?

…rules that is historically accurate and even makes sense…

Ummm……there is no way that Stalin would have put his forces under the command of the US or UK, or vice versa. Remember, after the Germans surrendered a large portion of the US military wanted to keep going to Moscow. Wisely they decided not to.

As far as the factories go, they are one of the most unrealistic parts of the game. The UK builds a factory in Persia and starts cranking out armor, not to mention aircraft carriers and battleships? Not an easy task.

Not playing by these rules is essential, as SUD said. I remember using them back in the dark ages and I could beat the axis without using the US at all. Russia holds off Germany while the UK pounds Japan and then turns back west and Russia and the UK run over Germany.

In 2nd edition rules – a surviving fighter in this scenario can only land if an island (completely surrounded by water) exists in that SZ.

In 3rd edition rules – when an aircraft carrier is sunk. The surviving aircraft on it can attempt to locate and land on a friendly island, territory, or aircraft carrier. These aircraft have one movement point to do so.

HUGE rule change from 1st to second:

Commander-in-cheif rule:
An allied commander may use allied peices in an attack (i.e. Russia can use UK peices in Karlea to attack Ukrane). 1st edition only, eliminated because of the complete unfairness, but it was very historically accurate (D-Day was really D-Day)

Land rule:
Sea zone and land zone are THE SAME (i.e. 3 BBs could take WEu from germanby and hold it). VERY strange rule, I’m glad they got rid of it. 1st edition only.

That’s all I know about it.

Huh! I always thought a SUBs submerging ability was the same as “withdrawing” in place–that is, you get a counterattack at any naval units attacking you and may then submerge or withdraw. That adds a different dynamic to things…

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