Offloading In Both Combat And Non Combat Movement

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@bb82:

Because the med fleet will be blocked by a Russian sub, Germany, at most, can attack UK with the following:

6 infantry, 6 armor, 6 fighters, and 1 bomber.

I like the 2 FTR, 3 INF on UK1 myself so that isn’t that bad a battle to fight really.

7 INF (2 UK Start; 2 US; 3 UK1 buy)
2 RTL (1 UK, 1 US)
2 ARM (1 UK, 1 US assuming SZ1 TRN sunk)
5 FTRS (2 UK, 1 US, 2 UK1 buy)
2 BOM

Take the Bombers as 1st round casulties and you aren’t too bad.

Moving the UK BB and TRN and the R sub to SZ6 will draw off some air power as Frood says it is aprox. 78% for the UK/R in the naval battle with just 2 subs and a Des.

One of those things you shouldn’t feel too bad about losing though.

The page 7 reference is to the chart at the bottom of the page called “Spaces on the Game Board”.  It defines an island group as a game board space.  A land territory is also defined as a game board space, so the definition on page 8 of an island as a territory located inside a sea zone also defines it as a separate game board space.

There’s also this FAQ entry:

Can a fighter take part in a naval battle in a sea zone and then in a battle for the island in that sea zone?
No. The island is not part of the sea zone; it’s a different map space that is adjacent to the sea zone but not part of it.

@TATCCITW:

Yeah but what if they attacked? What if there were subs present and they submerged.
And the other possibility I was thinking of, let say that Ger has a fleet next to Uk in SZ7. Uk has two fighters four spaces away from SZ7. Can those fighters attack when a CV has been purchased knowing they’d land there if they survived?

The fighters could legally attack, since the placement of the carrier would allow them a landing spot.  However, since they used all of their movement to get to the battle, they would have none left to retreat, so it would be a fight to the death.  The fighters would either clear the sea zone (including possible submerging by subs) or be destroyed.  If the fighters survive, the carrier must be placed in the sea zone.  If they don’t the carrier could still be placed in the sea zone, or it could be placed in another sea zone if there is another one available.

Edit:  Just to be clear, this answer applies only to LHTR, as using all of a fighter’s movement for combat movement would be legal under the box rules only if an existing carrier moved into the sea zone during either Combat or Noncombat Movement.

Correct… once you offload, both the TRN and the unit are done moving for the turn.

@ncscswitch:

@jsp4563:

The battle board even has a spot on the attaker side for transports with an attack value of Zero.

And as came up in the Allied fleets on “attack” discussion here and at Harris Game Design, that battle board is more than jsut a playing aid, it is indeed part of the rules themsevles.  So, a zero attack space for TRN’s means that under teh rules, TRNs can attack (they just can’t hit anything)

Which is BS.  Gosh bless it, if they can shoot down attacking planes, why can’t they ram submarines!  Bah huddlebugs and sassaphrase roots!!!  (I’m just being silly.)

Never mind… was thinking Revised…