the gib strat you employed hinges on seeing gib all the way thru. if at any point it is lost, it invalidates everything you’ve been working for. while losing w.india is a big deal, I don’t think it is enough to compensate for the loss of gib. but I could be wrong! let’s see what happens.
I think you are right.I had been fairly confident that I would have enough air in range to reinforce it over at least one more turn. Should have checked that more carefully.
normally, yes. but you had to send most everything over to get w.india, which meant, I could send most everything over to get gib. it was a trade.
I was rather pleased with my Japan set up there. I thought I had likely forced you out of W India without letting you make too much of an immediate inroad in the pacific. But I expected you to keep spending on that rather than on the Atlantic.
I was rather pleased with my Japan set up there. I thought I had likely forced you out of W India without letting you make too much of an immediate inroad in the pacific. But I expected you to keep spending on that rather than on the Atlantic.
yah, spending more in the pac doesn’t buy me anything immediate or short to mid term. it would’ve allowed you to make gains on mainland without much loss in the pac. that’s why I figured, if you’re going to go heavy on threatening the Middle East, I can go heavy on retaking gib. I can get more bang for my buck by gaining gib. opens everything up.
I’m seeing now. Just sent you the Germany turn.
I was rather pleased with my Japan set up there. I thought I had likely forced you out of W India without letting you make too much of an immediate inroad in the pacific. But I expected you to keep spending on that rather than on the Atlantic.
yah, spending more in the pac doesn’t buy me anything immediate or short to mid term. it would’ve allowed you to make gains on mainland without much loss in the pac. that’s why I figured, if you’re going to go heavy on threatening the Middle East, I can go heavy on retaking gib. I can get more bang for my buck by gaining gib. opens everything up.
gambling on your fleet in 7. Posted the file but I had 7 hits.
By posted, I mean emailed.
take out 2 dd, 2 cv, 1 anz fig
You had 5 hits so I sacrificed the 2 carriers and a destroyer. My next one was 4 hits.
2 anz 1 US fig, and injure cv
you had 6 hits and I took out the last 2 destroyers, 2 figs and 2 tacs. I hit another 4 times.
ok just go max defense from here
I should’ve been more careful with my fleet at sz7, but overall, the result isn’t the end of the world. you did after all lose some precious air as well.
FINALLY I have gib back! man, it feels like I just liberated france, lol
In the last round, had I brought all the German and Italian air in (and even built an Airbase and Naval base in Syria to bring the German units there to Gib), you would have had about 83% odds. So you really would have had nothing to spare (4 air less and your odds are 50%). Probably on those odds alone you would have gone for it, since even a bad roll should hit me hard and you would likely avoid casualties to your air in the first round. I opted not to do that because it would mean the end of most of the German air and because it would expose Italy and the med fleet a turn sooner had you still taken Gibraltar. And I hadn’t thought enough about what I would do in the pacific at that point.
But I wonder if you would have committed to an 83% battle in the Atlantic when you might need some of those units back in the pacific to block a pacific victory. I’m not sure if you would need them to block a victory but it certainly would have helped me in the pacific if in taking Gibraltar you had to pull all those units away from the pacific. And since taking Gib turns the game decisively (whether I try to hold it or not), I really had nothing to lose. I’ll still try to grab a pacific capital for a turn or two before conceding but I almost certainly can’t.
Italy sent.
yah I had considered that as well, that you might try to force me to commit all out on gib to allow Japan better chances at a pac win. I had some confidence I’d be ok, but I didn’t do any deep analysis to confirm. so it’s possible that that may have been a better route for you. can’t say without a closer look.
probably your only real chance would be to try a pac win at this point, tho your Indian stack isn’t completely out of the woods yet, as I still have greater power in that region, especially if I got desperate and had to do a combo strike. and the Chinese also still have a significant presence. so it’ll be interesting what you come up with next.
In the last round, had I brought all the German and Italian air in (and even built an Airbase and Naval base in Syria to bring the German units there to Gib), you would have had about 83% odds. So you really would have had nothing to spare (4 air less and your odds are 50%). Probably on those odds alone you would have gone for it, since even a bad roll should hit me hard and you would likely avoid casualties to your air in the first round. I opted not to do that because it would mean the end of most of the German air and because it would expose Italy and the med fleet a turn sooner had you still taken Gibraltar. And I hadn’t thought enough about what I would do in the pacific at that point.
But I wonder if you would have committed to an 83% battle in the Atlantic when you might need some of those units back in the pacific to block a pacific victory. I’m not sure if you would need them to block a victory but it certainly would have helped me in the pacific if in taking Gibraltar you had to pull all those units away from the pacific. And since taking Gib turns the game decisively (whether I try to hold it or not), I really had nothing to lose. I’ll still try to grab a pacific capital for a turn or two before conceding but I almost certainly can’t.
sent you Russian turn btw, in case u missed it
I got it. I hope to get to my turn today but it might be tomorrow. Both busy with a few things and a lot to think about in the game.
I got it. I hope to get to my turn today but it might be tomorrow. Both busy with a few things and a lot to think about in the game.
ok good, no rush. just making sure. I now have a lot of games going by email, and it’s a little trickier keeping track of it all.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3
Game History
Round: 25
Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 1 artillery, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 9 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;
Combat Move - Japanese
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 17 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima
3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima
1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 30 Sea Zone
2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 marine moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
2 artilleries, 1 cruiser, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 transports moved from 42 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
Japanese take 63 Sea Zone from Americans
2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 marine moved from 63 Sea Zone to New Zealand
1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Sikang
Japanese take Sikang from Chinese
1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
1 bomber moved from Japan to Iwo Jima
Combat - Japanese
Battle in 17 Sea Zone
Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport
Americans defend with 1 transport
1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 17 Sea Zone
Japanese win with 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
Battle in Queensland
Battle in New Zealand
Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 marine
ANZAC defend with 1 airfield and 1 harbour; Americans defend with 1 infantry
Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in New Zealand, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in New Zealand, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in New Zealand
Japanese win, taking Queensland from ANZAC, taking New Zealand from ANZAC with 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
Battle in Chahar
Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 4 infantry
Chinese defend with 2 infantry
Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits
Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar
Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits
Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar
Japanese win, taking Chahar from Chinese with 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
Battle in Iwo Jima
Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
Americans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Iwo Jima, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 4.17 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Iwo Jima
Japanese win, taking Iwo Jima from Americans with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Battle in 31 Sea Zone
Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
Americans defend with 1 destroyer
Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 31 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 31 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 destroyer owned by the Americans and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 31 Sea Zone
Japanese win with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
Battle in 30 Sea Zone
Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
Americans defend with 1 destroyer
Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 30 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 30 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 30 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 30 Sea Zone
Japanese win with 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
Non Combat Move - Japanese
3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Iwo Jima to 6 Sea Zone
1 tactical_bomber moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Manchuria to Japan
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
2 tactical_bombers moved from 42 Sea Zone to West India
3 fighters and 3 infantry moved from India to West India
2 fighters moved from French Indo China to West India
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
2 carriers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from 30 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 31 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 30 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Iwo Jima to Caroline Islands
1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
2 carriers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
2 submarines moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria
1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
2 armour moved from Yunnan to Malaya
1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State
1 artillery moved from Hunan to Anhwe
1 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
7 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Anhwe
2 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Yunnan to India
1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
Place Units - Japanese
1 fighter placed in Japan
3 destroyers placed in 6 Sea Zone
2 transports placed in 37 Sea Zone
1 infantry placed in Malaya
3 infantry placed in India
1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China
3 infantry placed in Shantung
Turn Complete - Japanese
Japanese collect 70 PUs; end with 70 PUs
Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 73 PUs
Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
ANZAC : -0.33
Americans : -0.33
Chinese : -1.00
Japanese : 1.83
