UK National Objectice

@slo:

how do you keep track of the NO’s, and how do you keep track of the income from them, do you include it on the IPC chart?

In the 1941 setup for example, the USA gets 40 ipc….they also have automatically completed a NO bye controlling the usa…so would you mark 40 or 45 om the ipc chart?

The IPC chart is a tool to help determine one’s IPCs they will collect at the end of their turn.  These are always in play (part of the base rules).  National Objectives are an optional rule, and are not tracked via the IPC chart.  You simply determine which NO bonus you have achieved and add those extra IPCs to your IPCs from the chart to get your IPCs awarded/collected at turns end.  Add this to whatever unspent IPCs that you have remaining, and now you know your total you can spend the next turn.

Bid insanely high.

The Allies have the advantage, simply because the Axis MUST succeed in reaching parity, or it’s doomed.

Chance is against the Axis.  No amount of reasonable bid can encourage me to inherit the “Risk of Chance”  or “Onus of Liability and Risk”.

As the allies, all you have to do is play prevent, and make sure -they- can’t win.  Time is on your side.

Having played some more games, I no longer really feel dat the Allies have a better chance of winning. Perhaps it just takes more games to learn how to play axis effectively.

Having NO’s on indeed makes the game more realistic and fluid, in the sense that fighting for something like australia for example really is worth the effort more. Perhaps we will try NO’s in the future, when all of our players are more experienced with the vanilla ruleset.

@squirecam:

@questioneer:

Yes, by round 4 technically.

I’ve always been of the belief that if games are ending early, either its a particularly bad dice outcome, or the other side is not playing very well.

Questions:

What did each of you buy as Germany?

When you were allies, did he attack you, or vice versa?

Q1  I bought like 4inf, 4tnk, 1ftr.  He bought something similar

Q2  Russia went too strong the first round and it backlashed quickly.  The 2nd game seemed more like the normal Eastern Front stuggle- eventual stack on either side but the Allied planes came in to defend and bomb just in the nick of time.  This is why I think Allies have the advantage.  Against a strong KGF, there are just too many fronts for the Axis to defend- the new map with chopped up territories doesn’t allow it.

I didn’t completley ignore Japan though.  I simply left a small annoying force to sail south and become a potential menace- but I put all my money and builds towards Europe.  Japan is way to slow- you need more builds to get to Russia because it takes forever.  That’s why I think the NOs help balance it out more because they help the Axis more than the Allies on the onset.

In the first game, he did have some dice whoopings.  The 2nd game seemed pretty normal.  Tech really didn’t effect the games much because the games ended fairly quickly (4 rounds).  They are a lot of fun though and pretty balanced I think because both sides can invest in them- especially with NO’s.

my best bet would have beeen amazon anyway ;)

I think one inf per territory is a bit too strong for China. However I think the number of inf they get should be rounded UP instead of down. That alone would help a bit…

Plus the Fighter needs to move back…

US starts low on troops and action, Japan has almost no effect (once had +70, but could harm moscow only a little bit, by SBR), chinese get wiped out

UK: has some good lookin ships
Germany: nice tanks, can i borrow them?
USSR: more inf!
Italy: small but fun

Snap! i love man i am running out of ideas noooooooo….

Must think so these tokens can keep coming um…

umm…    General tokens!  I have thought for like 15 minutes of this and this would kick some butt