Tirano (X) Vs. OwenToo (L)

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 4 artilleries and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            2 artilleries moved from Karelia to Finland
            1 armour moved from Karelia to Finland
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to 115 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Ukraine
            6 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska

Combat - Russians
            Battle in 115 Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Germans lost in 115 Sea Zone
                Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
            Battle in Finland
                Russians attack with 1 armour and 2 artilleries
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 2 artilleries in Finland, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland
                Russians win, taking Finland from Germans with 1 armour and 2 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Karelia to Archangel
            2 aaGuns moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            4 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 armour, 3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 fighter moved from 115 Sea Zone to Bryansk

Place Units - Russians
            2 infantry placed in Volgograd
            4 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 40 PUs
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 0.00
    Russians : 0.67

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to United Kingdom
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 4 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 4 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            2 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 artillery moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            2 fighters moved from Wake Island to 54 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland

Place Units - Americans
            1 destroyer and 3 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Sikang to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Sikang to Shensi

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Shensi
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shensi
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 6 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 7 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 8 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 8 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shensi
                Chinese win, taking Shensi from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Shensi to Tsinghai
            3 infantry moved from Sikang to Tsinghai

Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Tsinghai

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 4 PUs; end with 5 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese : -3.83
    Japanese : -1.33

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to United Kingdom
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 4 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 4 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            2 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 artillery moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            2 fighters moved from Wake Island to 54 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland

Place Units - Americans
            1 destroyer and 3 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Sikang to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Sikang to Shensi

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Shensi
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shensi
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 6 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 7 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 8 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 8 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shensi
                Chinese win, taking Shensi from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Shensi to Tsinghai
            3 infantry moved from Sikang to Tsinghai

Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Tsinghai

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 4 PUs; end with 5 PUs

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 airfield, 1 armour and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 mech_infantry moved from India to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Yunnan
            1 armour moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 99 Sea Zone to Cyprus
            1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Cyprus
            3 cruisers moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            3 destroyers moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to 98 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 98 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            2 armour moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
            2 infantry moved from Kenya to 72 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 72 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to Cyprus
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Iraq
            1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Iraq
            1 carrier moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone

Combat - British
            Battle in Cyprus
                British attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 2 cruisers in Cyprus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Cyprus, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Cyprus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Cyprus, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Cyprus, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Cyprus
                British win, taking Cyprus from Italians with 1 artillery and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Iraq
                British attack with 2 armour, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry
                    British roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                    Neutral_Axis roll dice for 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis and 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq
                British win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 2 armour, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                British attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 4 : 3/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan
                British win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to India
            1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kenya to Egypt
            2 fighters moved from Iraq to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Cyprus to Egypt
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Persia
            2 submarines moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            1 airfield placed in Gibraltar
            1 armour and 1 fighter placed in Persia

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 38 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,3
            UK_Pacific collect 9 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 9 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

British : -2.33
    Italians : 0.33
    Chinese : -3.83
    Neutral_Axis : 2.00
    Japanese : -2.00

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I understand. You can re-do your move. For my OOL, please take the carrier first, then the destroyers, then the Cruisers, and lastly the air. Surviving fighters land on Cyprus.

OK I have looked at the die roll and the only thing you are missing is your sub

You got 4 hits , and I got 6 hits

You had both your cruisers, just not the sub. So what I would like you to do, since evidently you didn’t save the move mid-battle is to reconstruct the battle, and get the MARTI die roll server to generate a roll for the sub. You can do that by on your reconstructed move have the sub attack my destroyer in SZ96. Also, since the sub is lost on the first round of 6 hits, use edit mode to reduce the fleets to what they should be after the first round, and do battle (or retreat) with the remaining forces. You will have 1 damaged BB, 1 fighter and one bomber. I will have 3 cruisers, one destroyer, and 2 fighters. If your sub gets a hit, then kill an extra destroyer.

Where do you save the game to? Evidently not on the forum…

All right, I have looked closer at the die rolls from the MARTI server, and you had ALL of your fleet in the battle, just as you intended. Your sub missed, and you got 4 hits with the rest of your forces. The defending British got 6 hits. That is the first round, and it stands. For the second round you will have 1 damaged BB, 1 fighter and one bomber. I will have 3 cruisers, one destroyer, and 2 fighters. If you choose to lose your BB, and save your fighter, that’s fine. You can withdraw, or continue the battle with round 2.

You can see from the game summary that you had 2 cruisers participate in the battle, and at the beginning of your turn (end of UK turn) there were only 2 cruisers in SZ97, so I do not know where that cruiser came from that is now in SZ 97.

OK, it appears that everything is in order, and you sank your battleship and saved the cruiser, and retreated from the battle. That is why your cruiser is sitting in SZ97, because it retreated.

So now you can finish your non-combat move, place your builds and post your finished move.

Yes, you may lose the cruiser and add a fighter.

The game defaults to losing a fighter instead of the cruiser because of the IPC value of 12 vs 10, I suppose.  But you can choose what you lose.