18L BM3 Amon-Sul (Axis +6) vs cyanight (Allies)

@JDOW:

Godlike G1. SUPER huge risk and everything works out perfect.

I guess I have never seen a game in which all, 106, 109, 110, 111 and 91 are cleared in G1.

and pretty interesting buying on both sides.

@JDOW:

Godlike G1. SUPER huge risk and everything works out perfect.

I guess I have never seen a game in which all, 106, 109, 110, 111 and 91 are cleared in G1.

well, the dmg bat is alive, but not for long  :-D

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 1

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
                  Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan
            2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 4 marines and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Hunan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 2 :  5/9 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
                Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 :  4/8 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery moved from Jehol to Anhwe
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 fighter and 4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
            1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
            2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Kwangsi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Kwangsi
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns, 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns, 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            4 marines placed in Japan
            1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 40 PUs

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@cyanight:

I’m not a big fan of this combat phase first then purchase second.  That really changes the game imo.

I find it better for easening the planing of purchase units phase.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 1

Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                  Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
                  Italians take Kenya from British
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to British Somaliland
                  Italians take British Somaliland from British
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 93 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Albania to 97 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
                  Italians take Alexandria from British

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Trans-Jordan
            Battle in 93 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 transport; French defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the French, 1 cruiser owned by the French and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 93 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in 93 Sea Zone
                Italians win, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 transport
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
            Battle in Southern France
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry; French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 :  1/5 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    1 aaGun owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 2 artilleries in Southern France, round 3 :  1/3 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 3 :  1/3 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Southern France
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 artillery in Southern France, round 4 :  1/2 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 4 :  0/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Southern France
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 artillery in Southern France, round 5 :  1/2 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery in Southern France, round 5 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France
                Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 1 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            2 aaGuns moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            2 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria

Place Units - Italians
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3
            Italians collect 15 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 15 PUs

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 2

Research Technology - Germans

Combat Move - Germans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 94 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 94 Sea Zone
            5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Greece

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 10 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Greece
                Germans attack with 3 armour and 5 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 armour and 5 infantry in Greece, round 2 :  5/8 hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 :  0/4 hits
                    4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece
                Germans win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 3 submarines
                British defend with 1 battleship
                    Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 3 :  1/2 hits
                    1 battleship owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship
            Battle in 94 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers and 1 fighter
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 fighter in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 :  3/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 94 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 bombers and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Alexandria
            1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to Alexandria
            5 armour moved from France to Germany
            2 aaGuns and 5 armour moved from Germany to Poland
            2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
            1 artillery moved from France to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 armour moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Alexandria
            1 bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            1 aaGun moved from Poland to Slovakia Hungary

Place Units - Germans
            10 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 110 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs

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@cyanight:

This Combat first phase is not very fair.  It also limits your ability to buy a CV to land planes.  When you buy a CV to extend the landing of planes you do this before combat.  Now with this new phase order you cannot do that anymore.  With this method you either can’t reach without the CV or if your plane than needed to land on the CV dies then you don’t bother buying the CV but the plane got to make its attack. This is just one exploit I can see and it really does change the game.  If you want to convert the game over to the standard phase sequence I will continue but otherwise I’m not playing this format.

u can do it in edit mode without problem.

i do not know how it is possible to simply convert it, once the game has been played several turns.

This Combat first phase is not very fair.

how so?

U still have to make Ur buy before an opponent decides upon scrambling and stuff. combat is still conducted after purchase units phase, this is just combat planning that is done prior to purchase units phase.

and the CV thing can be solved easily with an edit.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 2

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
                  Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
                  Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
            2 bombers, 10 fighters and 8 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 harbour and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 10 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 8 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 3 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 10 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 8 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 :  13/24 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 10 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 8 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            2 aaGuns, 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 armour and 4 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
            2 bombers, 10 fighters and 8 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi
            2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
            3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
            1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            4 marines moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 4 marines, 2 submarines and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 4 marines moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi

Place Units - Japanese
            3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery placed in Japan
            1 harbour placed in Kwangsi

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 42 PUs

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I suggest we play this one on this way til the end.

Or U can transfer the game somehow to the old way and continue on USA 2.

cheers :)

next time i ll definitely write it down i want a CMF game.

and with U we can play with purchase first, no problem.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 2

Combat Move - Italians
            1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to 96 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Egypt

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 3 marines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Egypt
                Italians attack with 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                British defend with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 1 harbour, 6 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers; ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Egypt, round 2 :  3/3 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Egypt, round 2 :  4/16 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 8 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Egypt, round 2 :  9/16 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the ANZAC, 1 mech_infantry owned by the Italians, 1 artillery owned by the Italians, 5 infantry owned by the British and 7 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Egypt
                    Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 fighters in Egypt, round 3 :  5/7 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Egypt, round 3 :  3/9 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the British, 2 artilleries owned by the British, 1 fighter owned by the Italians, 1 artillery owned by the Italians, 1 infantry owned by the British, 1 armour owned by the British and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Egypt
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Egypt, round 4 :  1/4 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in Egypt, round 4 :  1/4 hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the Italians lost in Egypt
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Egypt, round 5 :  1/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Egypt, round 5 :  1/3 hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the Italians lost in Egypt
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 bomber in Egypt, round 6 :  1/2 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 fighters in Egypt, round 6 :  0/2 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the British lost in Egypt
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 bomber in Egypt, round 7 :  2/2 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in Egypt, round 7 :  1/1 hits
                    1 bomber owned by the Italians and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Egypt
                Italians win, taking Egypt from British with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 6 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 aaGun moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            1 aaGun, 1 armour and 4 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            2 aaGuns moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
            1 infantry moved from Kenya to Ethiopia
            1 infantry moved from British Somaliland to Ethiopia
            2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece

Place Units - Italians
            3 marines placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 28 PUs

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